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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Steinberg with gene and with Chris

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we're back on the para cast a little bit

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later we'll be talking about monsters

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the monster is always big news not just

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in fact but in fiction and we'll get

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into that in a moment the factual kind

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of monsters you have yeah but

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politicians those are the worst kinds of

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monsters scariest well I should tell you

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that I don't think a lot of you people

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realize that Chris and I do another

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radio show not just the power cast but

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something called after the para cast and

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that's like you know the after game

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chat about all sorts of different

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subjects no real time limit that usually

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goes for 20 or 30 minutes there are no

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commercial announcements because it is

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done as part of the power cast plus

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package it's after the power cast it's

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getting five-star reviews from listeners

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and you won't see those reviews on

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iTunes because to get that show you have

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of stalking the tricksters this is this

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a subscription to the prior cast plus

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for one or five years plus stop the

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the book okay and last week's episode we

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mentioned briefly that Chris's brother

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Brendan who's been on the show and does

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all those Mayan tours with his lady he

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has been treated for a tumor in his

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esophagus and he's taken his chemo as he

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doing Chris

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I'm happy to report he's doing much

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better he it seems like the tumors just

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with one session the tumor shrank enough

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so he can out-eat it's important to be

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able to eat and drink so he's out of the

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hospital he's back home and he'll be you

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know getting his strength back up and

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try and put some weight on he's lost a

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lot of weight and then in two weeks are

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gonna go in and he's gonna have another

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treatment and go through the whole chemo

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thing again but it'll be an outpatient

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procedure this time so you know I'm

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happy to report he's he's over that

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initial hump but he's got a long way to

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go it's no it's a major battle but you

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know he's strong and getting stronger

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and I'm happy to report that he's doing

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better so thank you so much for all your

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best wishes and prayers a lot of people

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have come forward and really expressed

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their um their concern and and also

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their love and healing energy it goes a

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long way believe it or not I'm I'm a

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real firm believer in the power of

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groupthink and power positive thinking

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so it's it's really good that people

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have come forward and I'm really

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gratified and thank you everyone it's

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important for someone who gets chemo to

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eat because you know your skin and bones

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after this thing pretty much takes

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everything out of you my late

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brother-in-law Steven went through chemo

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and you could see how it impacted him

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unfortunately his tumor never shrunk and

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the fact that Brendan's tumor is

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shrinking so quickly you know he's a

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really a tough guy I mean he's a real

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fighter he had a real bad back injury in

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a car accident he had spinal fusion and

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procedures and you know he's he's strong

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so we really we really have you know a

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lot of admiration for for his fight and

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and he's doing well so you know it's

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good he sounded on you know practically

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normal yesterday which is really a good

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thing to report and also bug you know my

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dear dearest friend Susan just had

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complete spinal reconstructive surgery

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so and I'm I'm going through my own

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little hell thing here so it's it's been

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a little rough around the old homestead

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here the last week and a half doing so

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again Thanksgiving

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baby for all your positive thoughts and

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prayers and throwing that healing energy

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in brennan's direction maybe we should

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just stay away from Chris because in the

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last few weeks I've been suffering from

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the recurrence of a back problem my

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chiropractor is busy reshaping the spine

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and doing all that stuff it's not so bad

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that I have to go to a specialist but it

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is painful sometimes when I walk I

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wonder maybe I'm going to need a walker

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soon but now I feel a little bit better

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so I don't know don't get too close to

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Phoenix Chris I promise thank you

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seriously last week's episode we have

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David Hatcher Childress I think the

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thing that we always hear when David

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he's making some very interesting

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fascinating and some people might

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consider extreme claims about this

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archaeological evidence evidence that

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might indicate the presence of advanced

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beings thousands of years ago I guess

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the main chatter you see in the forums

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from some people they enjoy the show

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others enjoy the show but don't take him

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too seriously now right the point is

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here is that unlike a lot of people he's

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going on the scene to investigate these

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things whether you agree with him or not

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he's there he's looking over these

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artifacts yeah

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what's your feeling about it you've

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known this guy for years you know I've

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known David for quite a number of years

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I'm very actually very close to him he

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can run his world Explorers Club west

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operation when he's in Jenna gone and he

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lives across the street from me

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you know David travels a good three to

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six months out of the year he goes to

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all these these locations some that the

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vast majority of the population never

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even heard of there's all kinds of

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potential megalithic sites and ancient

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sites that have not you know that

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they're not on everybody's radar and

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especially the cam culture in Southeast

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you know David is really up to speed on

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a lot of these locations and when he

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goes there he's looking for stuff that

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impossible for a Stone Age culture to

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the types of cuts that we would have

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difficulty doing today with modern you

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technology I should say and when people

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you know say oh well you're under

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estimating the ingenuity of man

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Yoshio Stone Age people could have

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of these sites you could say that you

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know there could have been super

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ingenious people that were able to do

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this but on many of them you can you

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just there's no way I don't care who you

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are you can you can sit back in your

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armchair and you can pontificate from

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now until the the cows come home but you

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you're just not going to be able to

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explain away the difficulty of coring

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and moving a thousand ton blocks it just

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we would have an incredibly hard time to

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do it today and when they just moved to

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megalithic snow not to think the LA

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California it took an amazing amount of

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guys and the you know he's 80 wheel

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trailers and they they can only go at

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one or two miles an hour and it was a

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huge deal and very very difficult and

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that's with again with modern technology

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so you know I I don't know moving

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although Easter Island heads and there's

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no trees to make rollers you know

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there's certain things that just don't

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add up with a lot of this stuff and and

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in David is not saying that aliens did

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this by any stretch but he's not

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factoring that out but at the same time

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you know we do have to come up with you

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attempt to explain these things you know

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oftentimes you can't there's nothing

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that you can come up with that would be

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you know some sort of human derived or

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closed-system explanation that would

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explain these things and I'm the last

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person to think that aliens are coming

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here and moving big blocks for primitive

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I'm somehow these things happen and in

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the this work was done

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so go ahead come up with some

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explanations David doesn't claim to have

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all the answers but he does claim that

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he's goes there and he looks at and he

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takes measurements he goes with Chris

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so anyway draw your own conclusions

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speaking of throwing your own

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conclusions when it comes to monsters in

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America were around the world we want

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you to draw your own conclusions we have

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Linda Godfrey author of American

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monsters a history of monster lore

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legends and sightings in America coming

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next with Jean and Chris you're in a

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[Music]

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first game attack of the Rockets and it

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was a critically acclaimed success and

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now there's the coming of the protectors

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a former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at rockets calm that's rockets

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our Ock oids calm so here's what

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more important certainly not in my 22

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years in the industry the dollar has

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lost over 90 percent of its value in the

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no fiat currency has ever survived the

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your family the choice is yours

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is a lady who chases after monsters and

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strange creatures and such and her most

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recent book is called American monsters

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from Linda Godfrey Linda welcome back to

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the para cast it's great to be back

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thanks so much for having me again we're

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always enjoying monsters in this country

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what is the appeal in movies in books TV

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what is our attraction to strange

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creatures who are sometimes really

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horrifying well I think there's a part

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of us that kind of likes to be scared if

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it's from a safe vantage point to read

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about a monster or to see one in a movie

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even to hear someone just tell a tale is

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a great way to be scared and think about

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what you might do if you ever actually

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encountered one without having that

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physical presence and and the true

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possibility that you might be carried

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off or eaten or all your blood drink or

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whatever it might do so you know I think

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that that's a really long human

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tradition probably rooted a little bit

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in self-preservation you know that idea

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of being prepared and wanting to sort of

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rehearse perils that might befall us by

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living them vicariously through these

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other tales I think that that's sort of

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the basis of campfire tales and and

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campfires go back to the beginnings of

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humanity is there much of a factual

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basis this is of core of a book like

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this is there much of a factual basis

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for these campfire stories

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sometimes yes and sometimes no you know

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the the classic example of yes would be

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the Kraken which now turns out to most

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people think be the giant squid or

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colossal squid that is now

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scientifically confirmed it used to be

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thought that such a large squid could

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not exist you know and that these were

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complete exaggerations and then of

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course we started having them wash up in

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beaches in New Zealand and elsewhere

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that indeed did measure this just large

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size so that would be the classic yeah

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sometimes they're real and then other

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times they may be just legends or exam

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exaggerations of legends occasionally a

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person will start something with a hoax

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I think of the chakalaka monster one of

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our southern creatures that had a whole

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monster craze going on in this little

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area called a choco taco in the name of

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the I'm kicking it's Missouri I could be

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wrong on on the state I don't have it

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right in front of me but it turned out

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it was a teenager who had like a skull

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of a dead cow and a sheet and a cape and

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a couple of teenage accomplices they

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started this whole local legend about

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this chakalaka monster and he finally

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gave it up when people started shooting

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at him yeah you know when you talk about

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the Kraken I just think of that trailer

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I'm not an Academy award-winning actor

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got the roll your arse

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oh you're got all your artists I'll

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leave that you're much better at it than

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I am

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yeah I think we're rolling into oblivion

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here if we don't get back to the

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seriousness to the seriousness

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let me get really serious and say the

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only real monsters that we know for sure

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exist are a number of Congress people

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that we have to deal with on a very

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sobering the very real level we know

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without getting into politics I really

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do believe that the worst monsters are

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humans I think

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serial killers well yeah people who do

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horrible things to other people and

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those are those are monsters but of

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course those aren't what I talk about in

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my book at all by the way Linda I just

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want to commend you on such a great job

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that you've done this is this is like

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the go-to encyclopedia of the subject

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I'm just just astounded how much work

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and research went into this you really

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to be commended on this and I'm why I

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reckon I don't say this I say this

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rarely about books that we have authors

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on the air but this book is a definite

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must read and I recommend it Island no I

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appreciate that I really do and it's

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quite an encyclopedia

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well I wouldn't wanted to do and I still

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want to get back and address the rest of

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your other question but what I wanted to

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do with this was just give people some

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clue as to the depth and the breadth of

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the sightings that people have around

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this country of these unidentifiable

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unexplainable creatures you know I just

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and we usually get them in bits and

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pieces you know there will be Batman

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scare here a large bird scared there

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Bigfoot here and there and people think

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oh there's one little thing there's

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another little thing they don't realize

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that these types of things are ongoing

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continually all over the place most of

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them don't get reported and they're just

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as generally never abroad look at all of

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them where you can kind of stop and look

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and say yeah this and this and this and

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they all sort of seem to mesh and evolve

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into one another you know you have large

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gigantic birds with 20 foot wingspans

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and they sort of merge into the and I

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was I'm not saying literally merge I'm

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just saying as you look across at them

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it goes into the things with bat wings

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and furry bodies and then you get just

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the furry bodies and then then there's

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the four less things you know like

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little greys and and that sort of thing

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so it just runs this entire gamut and

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the mystery that I keep coming back to

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and the reason real reason that I wrote

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this book and all my others is why if

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there's nothing to them and this perhaps

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addresses the rest of that question are

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so many people credible sober honest

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people for the most part seeing them and

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you know I'm a minority having the guts

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to report what they see you know I just

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doesn't you know the old saw it's about

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oh it's mass hallucination or oh they

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were drunk or you know I'm sorry that

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just doesn't fly for most of these

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descriptions that people have of their

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encounters it just doesn't work out

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there can be some delusional people

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there there may be some

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misidentification certainly um you know

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there may be some just out note hoaxes

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but it doesn't account for the mass of

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sightings that there are and I thought

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if people could just see in one place

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how many different types there are and I

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couldn't even I could not fit all the

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types in and you always know that when

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you set out to make a compilation

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somebody's gonna get angry that you

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didn't put their hometown beasty in

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there and you know it was just

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impossible I had to pick the best of

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mine the best of in that kind of book I

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also had to bring in more things by

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other people because you know I

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obviously I don't get sightings of every

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possible type of creature you know I I

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need to lean on some friends like Stan

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Gordon and you know other people who

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have more of one type than I do of a

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certain type of creature but you just

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can't possibly fit every single one yeah

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I mean it would have taken three four I

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know how many books that size to cover

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what she left out entire categories yeah

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or gravity like elementals every Native

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American regional group of Indians has

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stories of elementals and diminutive

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humanoid type I had some little people

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in there I have a few but but the yes

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numbers of all the different forms and

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types is I mean you couldn't even fit

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all those in the book you can't fit

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anymore in this segment so we have to

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break okay we have Linda Godfrey talking

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about American monsters I'll tell you

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about my elemental encounter on the

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[Music]

628
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hi this is Bryce a blonde the producer

629
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:10,179
of dark skies the co-author of AD after

630
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disclosure and you are listening to the

631
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para cast the gold standard of

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paranormal radio

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[Music]

634
00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:22,260
with gene and Chris and the para cast we

635
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have Linda Godfrey author of American

636
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:26,940
monsters a history of monster lore

637
00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:29,250
legends and sightings in America and

638
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:31,020
every time I see the word monster I want

639
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to do a borås mom but I can't do that

640
00:27:38,450 --> 00:27:35,880
because I can't do that voice so anyway

641
00:27:40,490 --> 00:27:38,460
let us continue here now Chris was

642
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:40,500
mentioning other monsters we don't read

643
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:41,640
too much about in the book about

644
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:44,580
elementals and I'll just recite this

645
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:46,050
I've mentioned it before in the para

646
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cast but maybe it's relevant here and

647
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that is back in the 70s when Geneva and

648
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I were married that's my first wife and

649
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you've heard her on the para cast we

650
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maintained a friendship despite the fact

651
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that we went our separate ways in any

652
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case we're asleep one night for some

653
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reason in the living room I'm just a

654
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bare mattress in our home in Coatesville

655
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Pennsylvania this is in the 1970s and

656
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maybe it's three o'clock in the morning

657
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that magical 3 a.m. where Geneva wakes

658
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me up and says I just saw a water

659
00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:23,280
elemental and I said you saw a what now

660
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I wear contact lenses or glasses I had

661
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neither so I did look in the distance

662
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where she pointed towards the kitchen

663
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and I saw maybe something dark briefly

664
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for a moment and I was mostly sort of

665
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forgot about it and went back to sleep

666
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so that's it not very exciting is it but

667
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,950
Chris or Linda either one of you what do

668
00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:46,559
we mean by a water elemental well it's

669
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funny I was just going to ask you how

670
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she knew it was a water element she told

671
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me at the time and I don't remember well

672
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:57,030
a water elemental would in in my

673
00:29:04,130 --> 00:28:59,940
research from what I understand would be

674
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:04,140
a small type of spirit being that lives

675
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on or around the water they usually look

676
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like little humans when they're seen

677
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with the naked eye and in most tribes

678
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they're considered not terribly

679
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ferocious or anything but to be

680
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respected if you don't respect them they

681
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will come and do bad things or things

682
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you won't like at least you know from

683
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mischief too to probably rougher things

684
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and I know one name for them is the pock

685
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wedgie that's the one that comes to my

686
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:33,210
the different tribes have their

687
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different names for them but there are

688
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different waters many different water

689
00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:39,660
spirits in a lot of the Native American

690
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lore too you know like the water panther

691
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and the water snakes or water serpents

692
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so there's kind of like a whole whole

693
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pantheon of Native American water

694
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sprites - there's lights that tend to be

695
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seen and flitting around what what it

696
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considered sacred sprinkles sacred

697
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waterfalls we have one place in the San

698
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Luis Valley for instance where that's

699
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the most common the most if you're gonna

700
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go somewhere to see something unusual

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that would be the place that you would

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have the best most consistent chance of

703
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seeing something unusual and it sees

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these kind of like Tinker Bell's that

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seem to hang around this one particular

706
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sacred grotto and waterfall hmm and are

707
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there particular other creature

708
00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:26,670
sightings around in that same area

709
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because yes Springs and grottoes were

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considered to be the doorways to the

711
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spirit world

712
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Native American tribes and so you would

713
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get the little lights that some people

714
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believed were these creatures in their

715
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undifferentiated unmanifested form and

716
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then that they would according to

717
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different means manifest as is something

718
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that could get around on this earth on

719
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two or four legs and you know maybe have

720
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fur that sort of thing Bigfoot sightings

721
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there there's doorways that seem to be

722
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opening and closing in the mountain UFOs

723
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a small UFOs may be now about their

724
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spirit warriors a full warrior just

725
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ferocious looking sort of half opaque

726
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app transparent warriors showing up at

727
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campfires

728
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:19,830
nearby it is a lot of stuff happens

729
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:21,150
there but the most consistent one of

730
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:23,190
these lights and where again did you say

731
00:31:27,890 --> 00:31:25,050
exactly that was this would be at the

732
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top of this is the pot of Falls which is

733
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right above the snippy the horse site

734
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the first publicized animal mutilation

735
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is right above there up in them on the

736
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mountain there between there and the

737
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rocky canyon which is in the Sangre de

738
00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:43,440
Cristo's I've been kind of going up the

739
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north from the Blanco

740
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area which is the sacred mountain of the

741
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east for the Pueblo and Danai people

742
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it's a magical spot now I take people up

743
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there open all the time and it's a great

744
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skywatching spot it sits up about 1,200

745
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feet off the valley floor very cool so

746
00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:06,590
what you mentioned and I didn't it was

747
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:09,800
garbled when I mentioned how long it

748
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took you to research and write this book

749
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:12,980
this looks like it took quite a long

750
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time yeah it was about two years all

751
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together in the making and normally I'll

752
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do you know one to two books a year so

753
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:25,820
it was a little bit more of an effort

754
00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:28,070
you know and and it took some shuffling

755
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:31,240
around and and then the agonizing over

756
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what to put in and what to leave out and

757
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:35,960
then I kept finding more and I kept

758
00:32:40,930 --> 00:32:38,360
calling my editors I went over the

759
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intended word count and calling my

760
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editors and the publisher and saying

761
00:32:49,090 --> 00:32:45,770
please I just have another ten thousand

762
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words this great day and you know

763
00:32:53,950 --> 00:32:51,110
finally it had reached their their

764
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:53,960
ultimate limit and you know I had to

765
00:32:58,900 --> 00:32:56,809
settle for what I had yeah I was

766
00:33:03,669 --> 00:32:58,910
supposed to have a 360 page book and

767
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:03,679
mine ended up being six hundred percent

768
00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:07,760
your bill well here's here's an

769
00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:10,160
interesting question I normally we wait

770
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:11,990
with our questions until later on in the

771
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:13,730
show but some of these questions I think

772
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:16,130
are important as at the head end of show

773
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:18,590
girth and this one comes from Bern state

774
00:33:23,490 --> 00:33:21,260
he is one of our most prolific coasters

775
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:23,500
he's also been a guest on the show and

776
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:25,910
it's just a wonderful intellect this

777
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:26,900
guy's amazing

778
00:33:31,690 --> 00:33:30,080
he's up in the in Toronto monsters

779
00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:31,700
appeared to occupy a special place in

780
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:34,070
human culture as we have always seen

781
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:35,990
distorted antropomorphic versions of

782
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:38,210
ourselves throughout history in some

783
00:33:43,510 --> 00:33:40,820
sort of animalistic form what do you

784
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:43,520
think is the purpose of monsters in

785
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:46,730
society well I'm not a psychologist you

786
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,190
know and I hate to sort of venture into

787
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:51,679
those waters and it's entertainment

788
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:54,170
almost in one sense but right there's

789
00:34:00,700 --> 00:33:59,330
some other more some archetypal

790
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:00,710
lack of a better word do you think it

791
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:02,990
sponsors actually have a function within

792
00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:06,110
the society yeah I do think that it can

793
00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:08,060
go deeper than that

794
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:11,480
you know we know that our ancestors did

795
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:14,020
a lot of ritual things wearing animal

796
00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:16,820
masks that made them look matte monsters

797
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:18,590
or skins you know where they would take

798
00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:21,770
on the characteristics of the animals

799
00:34:26,890 --> 00:34:25,070
they most admired or feared or you know

800
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:26,900
what wanted to hunt you know we can only

801
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:30,050
guess it at some of their reasons but

802
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:35,240
you know I I just do think that again it

803
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:38,420
gets down to really thinking about the

804
00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:41,570
things that scare us and maybe even

805
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:44,150
displacing them sometimes onto these

806
00:34:52,870 --> 00:34:49,190
these monstrous types of creatures

807
00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:52,880
because we can say well there's there's

808
00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:54,710
bad stuff in me but oh look there are

809
00:34:58,540 --> 00:34:56,300
these monsters they're much worse you

810
00:35:00,520 --> 00:34:58,550
know those are very far removed from me

811
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:00,530
they really can't hurt me I could never

812
00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:02,510
be like them you know that kind of thing

813
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:06,140
it takes the scariness that's within

814
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:08,750
ourselves and puts it someplace else

815
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,070
someplace that is different than a human

816
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:15,680
and someplace that we can analyze and

817
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:19,850
maybe historically control through

818
00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:22,760
ritual or you know control through

819
00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:24,470
putting them in the TV you can watch

820
00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:26,630
them get scared get your fill of them

821
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,790
and then you know if the zombies get too

822
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:30,560
threatening you turn off the TV you know

823
00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:33,110
it's it's a way that we can manage these

824
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:36,350
scary feelings that are part of our

825
00:35:43,090 --> 00:35:40,070
basic instinct and again I apologize to

826
00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:43,100
any psychologists listening that's just

827
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:47,120
my layman's version of that do well I

828
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:48,770
like the way that you've broken the book

829
00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:52,010
up into into some interesting categories

830
00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:54,700
of monsters by air monsters by sea

831
00:35:59,950 --> 00:35:57,470
monsters by land I just love that

832
00:36:01,840 --> 00:35:59,960
because it's a great way to so first of

833
00:36:04,090 --> 00:36:01,850
all compartmentalize the information so

834
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:04,100
it's easily accessible for the reader

835
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:07,250
but then your sub your sub categories

836
00:36:10,850 --> 00:36:08,510
are interesting because some of them

837
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:10,860
overlap they do

838
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:13,500
okay you can't help it because you can

839
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:16,890
find creatures that are you would think

840
00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:19,020
would be primarily fliers but they'll

841
00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:21,780
walk around - you know or they'll have

842
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:24,060
what senator primarily walking around

843
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:26,220
all of a sudden they take off exactly

844
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:29,310
exactly yeah so there's this I'm sorry

845
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:31,530
that leads me to a second question by

846
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:33,930
burden state before we have the second

847
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:37,080
question by our friend burn State let's

848
00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:39,360
do our break with Jean and Kris talking

849
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:57,670
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850
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855
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899
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902
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904
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905
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914
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915
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the commercials watch local channels to

916
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:42,010
at just $19.99 what are you waiting for

917
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:43,750
pull out your major credit or debit card

918
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:49,630
call 185 v 905 my TV 185 v 905 my TV say

919
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920
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921
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922
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923
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924
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925
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926
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,569
wait any longer with rock-bottom prices

927
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928
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929
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930
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buildings at prices you will never see

931
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,480
again

932
00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:25,680
don't miss these prices of 50 by 100 for

933
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934
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935
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you need a larger building try a 100 by

936
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100 commercial building for a hundred

937
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and twenty nine thousand you can't

938
00:40:40,050 --> 00:40:37,570
afford to rent with the

939
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prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot church

940
00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:42,100
building for under 69 thousand dollars

941
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:44,380
with the economy improving and interest

942
00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:46,630
rates still at historic lows you can't

943
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:50,680
afford to wait so call 866 91 steel lock

944
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:54,460
in your price now call 866 91 steel

945
00:41:06,090 --> 00:40:57,010
that's eight six six nine one seven

946
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:06,100
eighty three thirty-five this is Micah

947
00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:07,390
Hanks to the graylien report and you're

948
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,580
listening to the Peres cast the gold

949
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:11,520
standard of paranormal radio

950
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:21,000
chris is trying to put on his monstrous

951
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:22,930
voice by the way it's gonna get more and

952
00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:24,730
more eccentric as we progress because

953
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:27,100
we're talking about American monsters we

954
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:28,630
have Linda Godfrey author of American

955
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:32,050
monsters a history of monster lore

956
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:34,870
legends and sightings in America really

957
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:37,210
terrific little book here and we started

958
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:39,910
reading it a while back because she sent

959
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:41,620
us where the publisher sent us like a

960
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:44,770
pre-release version and it's well over

961
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:47,640
300 pages almost 350 pages which is more

962
00:41:52,140 --> 00:41:50,050
content than most books of this type and

963
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,150
she said she kept begging the publisher

964
00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:54,880
to have more space to present more case

965
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:57,880
histories we were asking questions from

966
00:42:02,460 --> 00:41:59,410
our listeners including our friend

967
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:02,470
Robert who is best known to our forum

968
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:04,240
members and listeners of the show as

969
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:06,760
burnt State he had a second question

970
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:09,490
Chris he did and before we went to break

971
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:11,980
we were talking with Linda about the

972
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:14,770
overlapping of categories of some of

973
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:16,450
these various monster types of monsters

974
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:18,370
that walk and all of a sudden fly or

975
00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:20,320
monsters you would think would fly only

976
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:23,560
and then were able to walk around and

977
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:25,690
he's wondering about how the over this

978
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:28,450
idea of overlapping works in terms of

979
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:31,390
the overall phenomenal nature of reality

980
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,410
and he says have you ever run across

981
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:36,880
monsters stories that have overlapped

982
00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:39,700
with other paranormal or UFO phenomena

983
00:42:44,130 --> 00:42:41,860
cases where ghosts and Bigfoot are seen

984
00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:44,140
together for instance or UFOs and wolf

985
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:46,300
men appear in the same area do you feel

986
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:47,890
that there's some kind of crossover

987
00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:49,960
connection between different paranormal

988
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:52,150
phenomena well I have to say that it

989
00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:54,910
seems to happen more and more you know

990
00:43:01,290 --> 00:42:58,060
and I noted in my book that it's really

991
00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:01,300
difficult to classify monsters we know

992
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:04,900
when when scientists put known animals

993
00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:06,430
in their traditional sorts of

994
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:08,140
classifications you can sort them into

995
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:10,170
orders and species and things like that

996
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:12,700
by virtue of the fact that they're

997
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:15,790
pretty reliable in that you know a bear

998
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:18,460
is gonna have four legs and no wings

999
00:43:23,010 --> 00:43:21,130
whereas when when the monsters come

1000
00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:23,020
there is something that may look sort of

1001
00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:25,060
bearish but it's got wings you know and

1002
00:43:29,370 --> 00:43:28,420
that it just it doesn't work normally

1003
00:43:33,870 --> 00:43:29,380
like that

1004
00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:33,880
so the thing is that when you have spent

1005
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:37,600
a long time researching these things you

1006
00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:39,460
begin to realize that certain things

1007
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:42,100
appear in clusters John keel called it

1008
00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:44,410
the window effect just about every

1009
00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:46,420
researchers had their own term for it

1010
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:49,870
hot spots hot zones sacred areas

1011
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:51,910
whatever you want to call it they do

1012
00:43:56,060 --> 00:43:54,400
seem to show up in the same places and

1013
00:43:58,650 --> 00:43:56,070
within the same sort of acidity and

1014
00:44:00,210 --> 00:43:58,660
actually that's kind of where my present

1015
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:00,220
book that I'm working on right now is

1016
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:03,690
going in that I'm trying to document

1017
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:06,700
some of these connecting things because

1018
00:44:12,090 --> 00:44:09,850
it is true that wherever you have

1019
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:12,100
Bigfoot or dog man sightings there are

1020
00:44:19,410 --> 00:44:15,970
usually gonna be UFOs showing up and in

1021
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:19,420
fact I had one incident that was

1022
00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:22,450
reported to me um it just just recently

1023
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:24,430
pretty recently the incident was a

1024
00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:26,650
little older but the report was more

1025
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:29,740
recent several decades ago and I was

1026
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:31,270
able to take all this down it was a

1027
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:33,850
pretty significant Bigfoot sighting in

1028
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:35,650
fact one of the I'm so excited to tell

1029
00:44:41,460 --> 00:44:37,150
it in the book it's one of the best I've

1030
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:41,470
come across and when I went into some

1031
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:43,330
MUFON files and other things I

1032
00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:46,510
discovered sure enough there was really

1033
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:49,180
significant UFO sighting within city

1034
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:53,200
blocks of that same thing just about

1035
00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:56,530
exactly at the same time so you may not

1036
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:58,180
see the Bigfoot walking out of the

1037
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:00,880
saucer you know you may not see the dog

1038
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:04,810
man flying the giant triangle but they

1039
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:08,350
do show up in the same areas where these

1040
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:11,530
types of craft appear and and where

1041
00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:14,950
other types of cryptids appear yeah you

1042
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:16,630
mentioned before our friend Stan Gordon

1043
00:45:22,350 --> 00:45:20,110
he had an event that he investigated

1044
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:22,360
with the same evening I believe if I

1045
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:24,730
remember correctly where Bigfoot we're

1046
00:45:30,690 --> 00:45:26,890
seeing coming out of a saucer and I

1047
00:45:37,290 --> 00:45:30,700
think the farmer even the real pop some

1048
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,300
shots off yes very rare but there are

1049
00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:40,000
there are some examples of that well you

1050
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:41,590
know that kind of leads to the question

1051
00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:43,360
of you know how about the time

1052
00:45:49,110 --> 00:45:46,140
of these things now do you see waves of

1053
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:49,120
unusual phenomenon that correlate sort

1054
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:51,970
of cross-correlate between categories

1055
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:54,690
whether it's UFOs and outbreaks of

1056
00:45:59,820 --> 00:45:57,850
cryptid sightings is the timing you

1057
00:46:02,490 --> 00:45:59,830
mentioned in this one case at the time

1058
00:46:05,610 --> 00:46:02,500
it seemed to be fairly fairly close do

1059
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:05,620
you see any any sort of consistency in

1060
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:08,950
that I think you say it more often than

1061
00:46:15,090 --> 00:46:12,580
you would normally expect to the trouble

1062
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:15,100
is that it's hard for us to have a

1063
00:46:20,070 --> 00:46:16,990
perfect sense of the correlations

1064
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:20,080
because so many things go unreported you

1065
00:46:23,550 --> 00:46:22,330
know somebody might have had there may

1066
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:23,560
have been three or four dog man

1067
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:24,310
sightings

1068
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:27,610
within say you know 30 square miles of

1069
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:32,230
Michigan within a week and somebody else

1070
00:46:37,860 --> 00:46:35,590
may have seen you know a dozen UFOs in

1071
00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:37,870
the same area but never those people

1072
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:39,840
never got around to reporting them so

1073
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:43,140
you have to live with the fact that I

1074
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:45,970
really believe most of these phenomena

1075
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:48,490
are severely underreported because

1076
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:51,130
people learn very quickly that they're

1077
00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:53,050
going to be made fun of a lot of them

1078
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:55,240
are afraid they may lose their jobs or

1079
00:47:00,810 --> 00:46:57,700
you know they just they don't want to

1080
00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:00,820
it's good right right and many people

1081
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:02,920
just want to say oh if I saw this I must

1082
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:03,460
be crazy

1083
00:47:06,450 --> 00:47:04,900
therefore I'm not gonna talk about it

1084
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:06,460
anymore and pretend that it didn't

1085
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:08,620
happen I have a lot of people say they

1086
00:47:11,790 --> 00:47:10,330
were that way for years until they

1087
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:11,800
finally saw there were enough people

1088
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:13,720
coming forward with it that they

1089
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:16,930
realized this is an experience that

1090
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:19,660
happens and it doesn't necessarily mean

1091
00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:21,550
you're crazy you know what else I found

1092
00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:25,180
is is the more bizarre the encounter or

1093
00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:27,940
experience or sighting the less likely

1094
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:30,580
it is that the witness will report it

1095
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:34,030
yeah and and I found that I have found

1096
00:47:39,350 --> 00:47:36,790
that in my own work you know I had a an

1097
00:47:41,790 --> 00:47:39,360
experience a couple of years ago where

1098
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:41,800
what I'm quite sure was a Bigfoot

1099
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,010
tore a 35 foot long eight inch living

1100
00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:47,680
limb of an oak tree from about 40 feet

1101
00:47:51,690 --> 00:47:49,240
up although I was out of Ridge so I said

1102
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:51,700
I level with it right before my eyes and

1103
00:47:56,250 --> 00:47:54,250
here's the weird I wrote a blog about it

1104
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:56,260
and I couldn't bring myself to put this

1105
00:47:59,549 --> 00:47:57,130
part in the blog

1106
00:48:02,759 --> 00:47:59,559
because this was what really shook me

1107
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:02,769
normally if a tree branch is dead and it

1108
00:48:09,690 --> 00:48:06,490
falls off there's no way that it twists

1109
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,700
perfectly horizontally to crack itself

1110
00:48:14,759 --> 00:48:11,920
off the tree before them being torn off

1111
00:48:17,339 --> 00:48:14,769
and and and dropping down vertically

1112
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:17,349
when is the last time you saw a giant

1113
00:48:24,269 --> 00:48:21,609
tree branch be twisted at a 45-degree

1114
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:24,279
angle until it pointed straight at you

1115
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:27,730
and then was torn off of a tree you know

1116
00:48:33,269 --> 00:48:30,730
I canceled I sell sensor dead out of my

1117
00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:33,279
my blog entry although I did put it in

1118
00:48:38,279 --> 00:48:35,460
the chapter in the book where it appears

1119
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:38,289
yeah that's kinda hard to explain by

1120
00:48:44,370 --> 00:48:42,640
some natural occurring man yeah I just

1121
00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:44,380
thought nobody's gonna believe this and

1122
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:46,750
I didn't but I didn't go back and fix my

1123
00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:48,130
blog entry because I thought well that's

1124
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:51,640
how I put it then and I hate to edit in

1125
00:48:55,470 --> 00:48:53,710
retrospect too much but I really

1126
00:48:57,809 --> 00:48:55,480
understand that because when there's

1127
00:49:01,200 --> 00:48:57,819
something that's just so impossible to

1128
00:49:02,849 --> 00:49:01,210
explain by any natural means you're very

1129
00:49:06,509 --> 00:49:02,859
reluctant to say it out loud to yourself

1130
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:06,519
much let's go and tell someone I haven't

1131
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:08,410
even found that people will report an

1132
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:13,420
event and you know because they feel

1133
00:49:17,549 --> 00:49:15,430
it's important enough to to share with

1134
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:17,559
investigators or law enforcement and

1135
00:49:21,809 --> 00:49:19,230
then once they get to know you even

1136
00:49:24,029 --> 00:49:21,819
months or years later they'll come back

1137
00:49:25,859 --> 00:49:24,039
and say oh by the way remember that no

1138
00:49:26,849 --> 00:49:25,869
first time I came to you and reported

1139
00:49:30,749 --> 00:49:26,859
something well there's something I

1140
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:30,759
didn't tell you yes invariably what they

1141
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,750
say is if I had told you this you never

1142
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:36,400
would have believed me so I left it out

1143
00:49:42,539 --> 00:49:38,710
and and and they're right it's some

1144
00:49:46,789 --> 00:49:42,549
weird trickster ish just bizarre

1145
00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:46,799
you know just head scratching you know

1146
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:50,200
ridiculous detail that just is so absurd

1147
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:51,970
that it just would have rendered the

1148
00:49:59,309 --> 00:49:55,650
whole sighting report unbelievable

1149
00:50:01,650 --> 00:49:59,319
people leave it out right yeah that

1150
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:01,660
happens quite a bit I continually

1151
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:04,089
express how grateful I am to of the many

1152
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:05,710
since there are people who do come

1153
00:50:10,060 --> 00:50:08,980
forward and help us build the database

1154
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:10,070
because if no

1155
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:13,310
but he did you know we would have no

1156
00:50:20,290 --> 00:50:16,490
idea no yeah and that's one problem with

1157
00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:20,300
with monsters or cryptids

1158
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:23,240
in general if attempted to do real

1159
00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:26,110
serious hard data real-time

1160
00:50:32,650 --> 00:50:28,750
investigation research into these

1161
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,660
creatures is virtually impossible you

1162
00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:34,400
know people are trying with trail cams I

1163
00:50:40,810 --> 00:50:36,670
love this idea of this stealth blimp

1164
00:50:43,090 --> 00:50:40,820
idea that's been in in development for a

1165
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,100
while fly this thing way up in the air

1166
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:45,200
with high def cameras and cover a whole

1167
00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:46,520
area

1168
00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:51,950
you know motion detectors and I think

1169
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:54,920
there are some some there is some

1170
00:51:00,550 --> 00:50:57,530
promise in some sense of this but it's

1171
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:00,560
it's virtually impossible really to deal

1172
00:51:05,050 --> 00:51:02,690
with this whole subject in any way but

1173
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:05,060
an anecdotal form and that's unfortunate

1174
00:51:09,790 --> 00:51:08,210
but it's it's something that we got to

1175
00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:09,800
live with how where do you see the

1176
00:51:15,010 --> 00:51:13,580
future of cryptid you know real-time

1177
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:15,020
cryptid research going do you think

1178
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:17,150
there's any hope before we have that

1179
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:18,950
answer let's hold it for a second okay

1180
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:21,110
we just want to remind you to go to plus

1181
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:23,630
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1182
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:26,210
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1183
00:51:31,090 --> 00:51:28,610
cast com Linda Godfrey is gonna answer

1184
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:31,100
Chris's question on the other side with

1185
00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:40,620
independently leading the way for the

1186
00:51:48,570 --> 00:51:43,480
nation compelling talk for every

1187
00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:48,580
political persuasion we all see and st.

1188
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:50,440
Paddy's Day is coming soon two guns ad

1189
00:51:54,990 --> 00:51:53,020
calm my buddy mark is rolling in clover

1190
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:55,000
since guns ad calm announced his clean

1191
00:51:58,140 --> 00:51:56,110
and green sale

1192
00:52:00,900 --> 00:51:58,150
he used his leprechaun like magical

1193
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:00,910
powers to get guns ad calm to offer us a

1194
00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:02,590
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow

1195
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:05,320
now for a limited time when you order an

1196
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,110
ar-15 rifle kit guns ad comm will toss

1197
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,480
in a cleaning kit and a tactical bipod

1198
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:12,880
pistol grip free all for the low low

1199
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:16,690
price of four 4995 go-to guns ad Commons

1200
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:19,510
guns ad comm we the people grow cotton

1201
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:21,610
wheat fabric engraving can bed strips

1202
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:23,170
and fibers to protect from counterfeit

1203
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:25,030
and carding to a private bank having it

1204
00:52:27,810 --> 00:52:26,110
led back at interest

1205
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:27,820
forcing taxes to service debt this

1206
00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:29,530
capitalism what was Jefferson correct

1207
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:31,150
when stating a central bank issuing the

1208
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:32,800
public currency is a greater menace to

1209
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:33,910
the liberties of the people than a

1210
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:35,650
standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

1211
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:37,090
placing a free silver dollar in a book

1212
00:52:42,450 --> 00:52:38,920
that explains our monetary system call

1213
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:42,460
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

1214
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:45,640
to understand the system call 866 to 237

1215
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:47,470
that's eight hundred six eight six two

1216
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:51,010
two three by now you may have heard a

1217
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:52,690
bit about bitcoins but did you know

1218
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:54,430
bitcoins are now over an eight point

1219
00:52:58,890 --> 00:52:56,260
five billion dollar market and did you

1220
00:53:01,170 --> 00:52:58,900
know that over 65,000 businesses now

1221
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:01,180
accept bitcoins listen if you're already

1222
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:03,010
earning bitcoins or trying to make money

1223
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:04,840
in the Bitcoin market you've got to know

1224
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:08,110
big bit Co why because vid bit Co is

1225
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:10,330
where you can easily receive bitcoins by

1226
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:12,010
selling and auctioning off your own

1227
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:14,050
personal items or promote business

1228
00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:16,090
products and services for bitcoins you

1229
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:17,740
heard right whether personal or business

1230
00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:20,290
you can now buy sell and auction your

1231
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:22,390
product and services quickly easily and

1232
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:25,210
securely for Bitcoin at bid bit Co the

1233
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:27,130
first and only marketplace website to

1234
00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:29,170
offer big bit escrow a proprietary

1235
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:31,240
technology which give buyers and sellers

1236
00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:32,570
security and deep

1237
00:53:36,910 --> 00:53:34,790
because all transactions are protected

1238
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:36,920
start today it's free to join free to fo

1239
00:53:41,890 --> 00:53:38,930
free to auction and free to bid at

1240
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:41,900
Fitbit Co buy sell bid or auction

1241
00:54:15,340 --> 00:53:44,920
everything Bitcoin that's

1242
00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:15,350
www.dvc.edu/financialaid de Godfrey with

1243
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:18,140
Jean and Chris on the para cast this

1244
00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:20,630
week Linda Chris asked you a question

1245
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:24,860
where where is real-time investigations

1246
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:28,550
going it's extremely difficult yes it is

1247
00:54:34,450 --> 00:54:31,010
and not that this is ever gonna be any

1248
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:34,460
you know rock-solid means that I do have

1249
00:54:41,830 --> 00:54:37,520
great hopes for drones these little

1250
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:41,840
drones that are very can be very

1251
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:44,570
intrusive and hard to see you could make

1252
00:54:51,730 --> 00:54:48,170
them very well-camouflaged use you know

1253
00:54:54,010 --> 00:54:51,740
the different different forms of flash

1254
00:54:56,170 --> 00:54:54,020
that are difficult to see and I think

1255
00:54:58,810 --> 00:54:56,180
that those might be more effective than

1256
00:55:00,940 --> 00:54:58,820
a giant blimp that's flying overhead

1257
00:55:02,650 --> 00:55:00,950
that's really pretty limited in its

1258
00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:02,660
course these could be zigzagged around

1259
00:55:08,410 --> 00:55:05,500
anywhere and i also since one of the

1260
00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:08,420
chief problems of people who have

1261
00:55:12,940 --> 00:55:10,580
creature encounters being able to take

1262
00:55:16,210 --> 00:55:12,950
pictures is that by the time they pick

1263
00:55:17,830 --> 00:55:16,220
up the camera hold it up aim it the

1264
00:55:19,810 --> 00:55:17,840
creatures often out of sight already

1265
00:55:21,730 --> 00:55:19,820
many many sightings are just creatures

1266
00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:21,740
running across roads and they only last

1267
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:22,430
seconds

1268
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:25,370
but if you're wearing your camera on the

1269
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:27,140
corner of your glasses and all you have

1270
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:29,210
to do is tap the corner of your glasses

1271
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:32,450
string to take a picture you know I

1272
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:33,650
think you're going to have a lot better

1273
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:35,930
chance of perhaps catching something

1274
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:38,990
even if it's only a blur just very

1275
00:55:42,580 --> 00:55:40,610
quickly I mention a lot of the newer

1276
00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:42,590
smartphones latest from Apple ladies

1277
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:44,150
from Samsung

1278
00:55:48,250 --> 00:55:45,529
a couple of taps to get through the

1279
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:48,260
camera yeah these here for you yes yeah

1280
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:49,609
and that's a good thing you know

1281
00:55:54,450 --> 00:55:51,890
anything that gets the camera up a name

1282
00:55:58,839 --> 00:55:54,460
faster is going to increase your chances

1283
00:56:01,630 --> 00:55:58,849
however as a veteran of using trail cams

1284
00:56:04,359 --> 00:56:01,640
on the other hand I do know that even

1285
00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:04,369
when the cameras there and you know that

1286
00:56:08,859 --> 00:56:07,670
the creatures there because of results

1287
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:08,869
that have been produced

1288
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:11,270
you still don't often get the picture

1289
00:56:16,779 --> 00:56:13,970
and I've seen time and time again I've

1290
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:16,789
been experimenting with a local property

1291
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:20,390
owner that we've been putting deer

1292
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:22,609
carcasses out for about a year because

1293
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:24,890
he started having some weird mutilation

1294
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:27,650
type things of other animals on his

1295
00:56:34,930 --> 00:56:30,890
property livestock

1296
00:56:36,910 --> 00:56:34,940
no no just it started with a he's and

1297
00:56:42,099 --> 00:56:36,920
he's not an animal farm where he just

1298
00:56:45,279 --> 00:56:42,109
has a crops and he found a raccoon that

1299
00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:45,289
I had looked like it was zipped open

1300
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:49,000
from the chin down to the the end and

1301
00:56:54,370 --> 00:56:51,950
its entire insides had been scooped out

1302
00:56:56,799 --> 00:56:54,380
as with like a giant ice cream scoop and

1303
00:57:00,180 --> 00:56:56,809
laid in one nice piece on the ground

1304
00:57:02,109 --> 00:57:00,190
next to it which is something that

1305
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:02,119
almost which allistic

1306
00:57:07,150 --> 00:57:04,510
yeah you don't see predators do that and

1307
00:57:09,789 --> 00:57:07,160
go do a chore in his field and he came

1308
00:57:13,690 --> 00:57:09,799
back about 45 minutes later and that

1309
00:57:15,609 --> 00:57:13,700
nice pile was completely gone something

1310
00:57:18,370 --> 00:57:15,619
now and he would have had to have seen

1311
00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:18,380
any human entering I can't you know go

1312
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:19,700
into the logistics but he would have

1313
00:57:24,190 --> 00:57:21,170
known if a human had come in and taken

1314
00:57:27,220 --> 00:57:24,200
it and you know birds would pick that

1315
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,230
apart whatever animals you might think

1316
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:29,119
of normally being around there raccoons

1317
00:57:34,089 --> 00:57:32,480
er or what or whatever even coyotes

1318
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:34,099
would leave some but they wouldn't be

1319
00:57:38,980 --> 00:57:36,170
able to cleanly pick the whole thing up

1320
00:57:41,019 --> 00:57:38,990
and just scoot off with it you know so

1321
00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:41,029
we've started we started doing deer I

1322
00:57:45,250 --> 00:57:43,220
think we run our like twelfth carcass

1323
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:45,260
something like that now with varying

1324
00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:48,230
results but inevitably whenever the

1325
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:51,260
trail camera or cameras can be working

1326
00:57:55,029 --> 00:57:53,210
perfectly we get a beautiful shot of

1327
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:55,039
something you may see coyotes we may see

1328
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:56,720
any normal animals they're coming

1329
00:58:01,570 --> 00:57:58,170
they're vultures whatever

1330
00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:01,580
and then something has obviously picked

1331
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:04,260
whatever-it-was up and climbed over a

1332
00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:05,880
barbed wire fence with it and run off

1333
00:58:11,330 --> 00:58:08,430
and I'm talking 180 pound deer carcass

1334
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,340
or 60 pound deer carcass I mean the

1335
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:13,440
whole thing's gone yes in several

1336
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:17,520
instances during that time the trail cam

1337
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:20,910
does not work or whatever is happening

1338
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:25,260
is obscured by some type of misty type

1339
00:58:30,770 --> 00:58:28,350
of thing that leads me to a question are

1340
00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:30,780
we dealing with grill flesh-and-blood

1341
00:58:35,570 --> 00:58:33,720
creatures or are we dealing with

1342
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:35,580
something that truly paranormal or are

1343
00:58:39,380 --> 00:58:36,690
we dealing with something that can

1344
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:39,390
either flit in and out of both states of

1345
00:58:44,180 --> 00:58:42,420
existence or some that have access to

1346
00:58:45,020 --> 00:58:44,190
you know what I'm saying other words are

1347
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:45,030
we dealing with something

1348
00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:46,530
flesh-and-blood it's like UFOs are they

1349
00:58:51,980 --> 00:58:49,500
real or they've phantasms are they you

1350
00:58:54,020 --> 00:58:51,990
know some sort of valet ash control

1351
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:54,030
mechanism that's being generated by the

1352
00:58:58,820 --> 00:58:56,370
planet or something or I mean what are

1353
00:59:02,240 --> 00:58:58,830
we dealing with there do you think is it

1354
00:59:06,740 --> 00:59:02,250
a combination or is it well that's the

1355
00:59:09,140 --> 00:59:06,750
cliche $64,000 and and I wish I knew the

1356
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:09,150
answer what I try to do is remain open

1357
00:59:14,090 --> 00:59:12,330
because I can make us a case for not

1358
00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:14,100
every type encrypted but for some of

1359
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:16,590
them you know for instance in 90% of the

1360
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:19,110
cases that are reported to me of the dog

1361
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:22,310
man it's not doing anything supernatural

1362
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:25,250
it is you know writing on its hind legs

1363
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:28,110
staying out of sight for generations you

1364
00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:32,160
know right right that could be true yeah

1365
00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:34,380
but it's not doing anything necessarily

1366
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:36,150
supernatural there's another percentage

1367
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:37,890
than that are but in most of them

1368
00:59:42,890 --> 00:59:39,570
they're still there's this other

1369
00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:42,900
percentage of equally sober credible and

1370
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:45,900
reliable witnesses that see it doing

1371
00:59:52,310 --> 00:59:48,960
something like glow or appear in this

1372
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:52,320
misty column form that kind of thing and

1373
00:59:58,460 --> 00:59:56,130
I can't say well these witnesses must be

1374
01:00:00,880 --> 00:59:58,470
liars because they're seeing something

1375
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:00,890
that I can't accept as a natural

1376
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,570
occurrence in our world when there's no

1377
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:05,760
reason for me to doubt them any more

1378
01:00:10,220 --> 01:00:08,610
than there is you know this other this

1379
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:10,230
other group and the same thing for a

1380
01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:12,090
sasquatch I think it gets even harder

1381
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:14,740
there because you know there are

1382
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:17,590
definitely two camps there you can make

1383
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:19,090
it you can make an argument for either

1384
01:00:25,050 --> 01:00:22,720
way yeah my favorite dog Man sighting

1385
01:00:26,609 --> 01:00:25,060
was the account in the hunt for the

1386
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:26,619
skinwalker book about the Sherman ranch

1387
01:00:31,260 --> 01:00:29,830
case up in Utah mm-hmm where two dog men

1388
01:00:36,750 --> 01:00:31,270
was seen leaning up against the tree

1389
01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:36,760
smoke and cigarette yeah I do get

1390
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:39,430
sightings like that usually there are

1391
01:00:44,370 --> 01:00:42,160
around various tribal reservations yeah

1392
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:44,380
I put those in a different category I

1393
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:46,210
don't think they're the same phenomena

1394
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,210
as the physical I'm running across the

1395
01:00:53,849 --> 01:00:52,000
road and you can't get me dog man type

1396
01:00:55,859 --> 01:00:53,859
of thing that most people report to me

1397
01:00:57,660 --> 01:00:55,869
you know every once in a while somebody

1398
01:00:59,790 --> 01:00:57,670
will see something where I have another

1399
01:01:01,950 --> 01:00:59,800
report where they're you know driving

1400
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:01,960
around in in a Jeep wearing military

1401
01:01:10,890 --> 01:01:08,050
uniforms the dog men that is yeah yeah

1402
01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:10,900
it makes you really wonder so you do get

1403
01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:12,550
these other things and I've said right

1404
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,230
from my very first book on the subject

1405
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:16,960
the beast of Bray Road that it may be

1406
01:01:22,290 --> 01:01:19,260
that we are looking at several different

1407
01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:22,300
phenomena that we it doesn't have to be

1408
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:25,060
one particular answer for every single

1409
01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:27,160
sighting of something that looks

1410
01:01:31,710 --> 01:01:29,800
werewolf ish yeah yeah that's kind of

1411
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:31,720
where I was going with the question is I

1412
01:01:35,810 --> 01:01:33,970
think that there may be multiple types

1413
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:35,820
of phenomena that are piggybacking

1414
01:01:42,620 --> 01:01:39,160
themselves on to others as a form of

1415
01:01:46,020 --> 01:01:42,630
misdirection for lack of a better term

1416
01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:46,030
it's almost like they're know they're

1417
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,820
using other manifestations of something

1418
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:51,280
similar to hide their presence yeah in

1419
01:01:55,849 --> 01:01:53,590
vice-versa so you're basically saying

1420
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:55,859
what you see is what you're not getting

1421
01:02:02,220 --> 01:01:58,690
yeah well what you see is what they want

1422
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:02,230
you to see if there's almost a there's

1423
01:02:07,710 --> 01:02:04,750
almost a reflective quality I think

1424
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:07,720
certain individuals might manifest the

1425
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:09,670
the phenomenal event in in a particular

1426
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:12,850
way while other individuals somehow

1427
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:15,280
manifested in in in a different way I

1428
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:18,760
think the instead of looking at that the

1429
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:22,150
actual creature and trying to figure out

1430
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:24,010
who why is it manifesting in that way it

1431
01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:25,930
may be that we should be looking at

1432
01:02:32,430 --> 01:02:28,180
at the perceptive perception of the

1433
01:02:35,819 --> 01:02:32,440
experiencer I'm sort of go ahead I was

1434
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:35,829
gonna say it does seem to be that there

1435
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:38,770
in many cases is an interaction with the

1436
01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:40,630
consciousness of the observer and I can

1437
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:42,220
give you a really good example of this

1438
01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:44,680
that happened to me personally let me

1439
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:46,750
just tell you we have about 50 seconds

1440
01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:48,609
left the segment so just started here

1441
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:51,190
Linda and then I pick it up and this

1442
01:02:56,279 --> 01:02:53,950
will involve a ghost sighting which is

1443
01:02:57,569 --> 01:02:56,289
different and yet not different that

1444
01:03:00,480 --> 01:02:57,579
happened to me when I was researching

1445
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:00,490
weird Michigan Wow

1446
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there's the coming of the protectors a

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1477
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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

1478
01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:31,869
because evil forces on our distant

1479
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:33,580
planet are planning to conquer the earth

1480
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:36,250
this is gripping science fiction of the

1481
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1485
01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:49,150
felt like the United States government

1486
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:50,680
knows way too much about your financial

1487
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:52,660
affairs I continue to hear stories about

1488
01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:55,089
property seizures frozen bank accounts

1489
01:04:59,070 --> 01:04:57,369
confiscation of stocks and bonds it

1490
01:05:00,660 --> 01:04:59,080
makes me wonder if the US citizen will

1491
01:05:02,810 --> 01:05:00,670
ever again have the right to life

1492
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:02,820
liberty and the pursuit of happiness

1493
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unfortunately with the drug and money

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1496
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1497
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executive order of 1933 some precious

1498
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metal holdings are subject to government

1499
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intervention for this reason Midas

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1566
01:08:16,230 --> 01:08:14,530
on his best tricks Trish voice but

1567
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sometimes you do a trickster ish voice

1568
01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:18,820
it comes across like a leprechaun but

1569
01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:20,350
I'm not going to have him do that right

1570
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:23,320
now he did that years ago and some

1571
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listeners are still here so I don't want

1572
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to upset them I'm serious about this

1573
01:08:32,099 --> 01:08:29,440
let's talk to Linda Godfrey you were

1574
01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:32,109
going to answer a big long question

1575
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:33,640
there that was kind of framed would you

1576
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:36,600
go ahead sure it's the idea as to

1577
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:39,670
whether unusual events just present

1578
01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:42,400
themselves or if they are interacting

1579
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:45,910
with us somehow and when I was running

1580
01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:47,830
around I put 5,000 miles on my car

1581
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:50,350
running around Michigan for the weird

1582
01:08:55,890 --> 01:08:52,930
Michigan book and in the weirdest u.s.

1583
01:08:59,370 --> 01:08:55,900
series by Barnes & Noble I was in

1584
01:09:01,260 --> 01:08:59,380
Manistee Michigan and managed to locate

1585
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,270
the town historian which is usually my

1586
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:04,480
first move he directed me to a very

1587
01:09:09,329 --> 01:09:06,010
haunted brick building in downtown

1588
01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:09,339
Manistee that once was a tavern and

1589
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:11,230
living quarters for a German family

1590
01:09:16,829 --> 01:09:13,570
where they were supposed to have been a

1591
01:09:18,570 --> 01:09:16,839
young man who died of tuberculosis named

1592
01:09:20,910 --> 01:09:18,580
William and they called him basement

1593
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Billy because he was often seen in the

1594
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:22,930
basement and people would also see him

1595
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:25,510
outside the building wearing these late

1596
01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:28,000
nineteenth-century clothing items and

1597
01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:30,339
and looking malicious that kind of thing

1598
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:32,020
the woman who owned the apartment

1599
01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:34,450
building did not know I was coming I had

1600
01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:36,430
never heard of it before that day but

1601
01:09:40,890 --> 01:09:38,140
she took me down into the basement which

1602
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:40,900
was basically empty and any pipes were

1603
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:42,970
wrapped with brown paper so there was no

1604
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:45,010
reflective surface there was one light

1605
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:46,839
bulb at one end and one light bulb by

1606
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:48,880
the stairs we stood in utter darkness

1607
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:52,510
for about five minutes and I was just

1608
01:09:57,690 --> 01:09:53,770
about to tell her to turn the lights

1609
01:09:59,370 --> 01:09:57,700
back on and this floating ball I did and

1610
01:10:01,410 --> 01:09:59,380
I did not say anything at the time

1611
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:01,420
because it was to shock this floating

1612
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:04,120
globe about the size of a basketball and

1613
01:10:08,010 --> 01:10:06,610
it was near this low ceiling that where

1614
01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:08,020
there were probably 7 foot ceilings

1615
01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:10,300
maybe about 10 feet away from me and he

1616
01:10:14,490 --> 01:10:12,520
had kind of triangular projections on

1617
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:14,500
either side suddenly appeared and I

1618
01:10:18,030 --> 01:10:16,450
thought my eyes were playing tricks you

1619
01:10:20,910 --> 01:10:18,040
know I looked away and I look back and

1620
01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:20,920
it was still there and it seemed to me

1621
01:10:24,810 --> 01:10:23,320
that it was somewhat conscious of me

1622
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:24,820
that it was expect these are very

1623
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:26,890
subjective things but that it was

1624
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:28,810
somehow expecting something of me and

1625
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:31,030
then just as I went remembered I had a

1626
01:10:34,770 --> 01:10:32,560
camera around my neck and I was supposed

1627
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:34,780
to be taking a picture I started to

1628
01:10:40,170 --> 01:10:36,690
raise it up then it started slowly

1629
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,180
fading away well I found out that the

1630
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:42,640
woman also saw the apparition except

1631
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:45,280
what she saw was the full-on apparition

1632
01:10:51,450 --> 01:10:47,680
of basement Billy in other words she saw

1633
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:51,460
a young man wearing clothing I saw the

1634
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:53,890
essence I believe you know interesting

1635
01:10:58,650 --> 01:10:56,650
that gets into that whole idea of the

1636
01:11:01,260 --> 01:10:58,660
experience or is somehow manifesting the

1637
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:01,270
details of something that's there but

1638
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:03,730
the actual presentation of it is totally

1639
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:06,250
the engine on the person's own sort of

1640
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:07,840
consciousness and their interaction with

1641
01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:09,910
it which kind of brings me to a little a

1642
01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:12,040
side question is why do ghosts wear

1643
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:18,820
clothing things but yeah who knows why

1644
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:22,480
ghosts do anything really the other

1645
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:24,190
thing is he of course if we look at the

1646
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:26,890
TV sets the ghosts will wear clothing

1647
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:29,230
but always the same clothing they can't

1648
01:11:34,350 --> 01:11:31,330
change their clothes yeah that's true

1649
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:34,360
there was a British BBC series that

1650
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:36,790
became an American series about a ghost

1651
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:43,570
a werewolf and a vampire being human yep

1652
01:11:49,620 --> 01:11:44,290
exactly

1653
01:11:51,690 --> 01:11:49,630
walked into a bar but that was the whole

1654
01:11:53,550 --> 01:11:51,700
thing with the ghost in the show was

1655
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:53,560
that she could never have wardrobe

1656
01:11:58,620 --> 01:11:56,170
change because whatever she died in that

1657
01:12:01,800 --> 01:11:58,630
was what she had to wear always all the

1658
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:01,810
time so she died naked well then it

1659
01:12:05,610 --> 01:12:03,130
would have been a different kind of show

1660
01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:05,620
I think well there wouldn't be on a

1661
01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:08,830
sci-fi channel or BBC America would be

1662
01:12:12,209 --> 01:12:11,070
on Showtime or something like that

1663
01:12:26,069 --> 01:12:12,219
the

1664
01:12:28,739 --> 01:12:26,079
being human it now plays on this show

1665
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:28,749
about fairy tales coming real Once Upon

1666
01:12:33,569 --> 01:12:31,510
a Time on ABC you know who I'm talking

1667
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:33,579
about this kind of thin light haired guy

1668
01:12:38,939 --> 01:12:36,400
I forget his name and then in the

1669
01:12:41,790 --> 01:12:38,949
American version the guy who played the

1670
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:41,800
werewolf played Jimmy Olsen in the movie

1671
01:12:51,529 --> 01:12:47,920
Superman Returns I just watched the

1672
01:12:56,189 --> 01:12:51,539
shows and as mr. Spock once said I

1673
01:12:57,870 --> 01:12:56,199
remember yeah I didn't like the American

1674
01:12:59,790 --> 01:12:57,880
version as much as the BBC one but

1675
01:13:01,799 --> 01:12:59,800
that's neither here nor there but it

1676
01:13:03,779 --> 01:13:01,809
does pick up a bit of lore you know

1677
01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:03,789
which is that they appear in whatever

1678
01:13:08,910 --> 01:13:06,340
they seem to have died in yeah that

1679
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:08,920
makes sense I guess on one level it's

1680
01:13:12,839 --> 01:13:11,260
logical but let's get back to your book

1681
01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:12,849
here real quick one of the things that I

1682
01:13:16,799 --> 01:13:15,190
found in my research of stocking the

1683
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:16,809
tricksters in looking around for

1684
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:19,150
phantasmal forms and tricks which type

1685
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:21,610
forms but in Native American lore there

1686
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:24,010
are two consistencies that I see of the

1687
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:26,110
the most consistent and and this is

1688
01:13:31,469 --> 01:13:28,630
cross regional every regional groups of

1689
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:31,479
Indians has mythologies and legends and

1690
01:13:37,290 --> 01:13:34,960
stories of monstrous winged creatures

1691
01:13:38,910 --> 01:13:37,300
and that to me is very significant

1692
01:13:41,009 --> 01:13:38,920
because it doesn't matter where you go

1693
01:13:42,569 --> 01:13:41,019
in North America the indigenous

1694
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:42,579
population of that particular region

1695
01:13:48,899 --> 01:13:45,400
will have lore that talks about

1696
01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:48,909
Thunderbirds and giant winged creatures

1697
01:13:53,339 --> 01:13:50,769
let's get into that subject a little bit

1698
01:13:54,899 --> 01:13:53,349
here it's fascinating the way that

1699
01:13:57,359 --> 01:13:54,909
you've really dug up some very

1700
01:14:00,479 --> 01:13:57,369
interesting and I don't think very well

1701
01:14:02,669 --> 01:14:00,489
known examples of these winged monstrous

1702
01:14:04,379 --> 01:14:02,679
forms once you give us a rundown in some

1703
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:04,389
of your favorites then point out any

1704
01:14:08,910 --> 01:14:06,940
consistencies that you see well one of

1705
01:14:11,219 --> 01:14:08,920
the things that I really thought was

1706
01:14:14,489 --> 01:14:11,229
cool about this is that the giant

1707
01:14:16,739 --> 01:14:14,499
20-foot wingspan creatures are not just

1708
01:14:19,290 --> 01:14:16,749
ancient Native American legends people

1709
01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:19,300
are still seeing them today I started

1710
01:14:23,729 --> 01:14:21,280
out the whole book with what I think was

1711
01:14:25,170 --> 01:14:23,739
one of the best large bird sightings

1712
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:25,180
ever because of the

1713
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:27,310
was in northern Wisconsin most of the

1714
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:28,960
time when people see a large bird it's

1715
01:14:34,110 --> 01:14:31,600
up in the sky it's notoriously difficult

1716
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:34,120
to accurately estimate the size of

1717
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:36,330
something that's just in the sky with no

1718
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,250
context next to it for comparison but

1719
01:14:44,220 --> 01:14:42,400
this guy saw standing in a meadow and it

1720
01:14:46,410 --> 01:14:44,230
was huge he's over 6 feet tall this

1721
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:46,420
thing was way taller than him he also

1722
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:48,880
was able to see it take off and then

1723
01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:51,160
kind of trying desperately beating the

1724
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:52,840
air with its wings trying to get enough

1725
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:55,210
lift to get its massive body off the

1726
01:14:59,700 --> 01:14:57,190
ground and then kind of careened down

1727
01:15:01,770 --> 01:14:59,710
over an asphalt road where he was able

1728
01:15:04,020 --> 01:15:01,780
to see them swing tips touched either

1729
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:04,030
side of the road and the road I measured

1730
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:06,400
myself personally was about 20 feet wide

1731
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:09,310
so that's how large it was he was able

1732
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:11,650
to run the whole gamut but what he saw

1733
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:14,470
was a feathered creature which when I

1734
01:15:18,570 --> 01:15:17,110
tried to look up various Native American

1735
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:18,580
depictions of the Thunderbird

1736
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:20,650
they were usually almost always

1737
01:15:24,210 --> 01:15:22,930
feathered well saying well there were

1738
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:24,220
Thunderbirds and they're talking about

1739
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:27,550
the sightings of the supposedly extinct

1740
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:30,250
pterosaurs what some people call you

1741
01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:31,840
know just one type of that would be the

1742
01:15:36,690 --> 01:15:34,060
pterodactyl but that doesn't really fit

1743
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:36,700
the mold of the large winged feather

1744
01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:37,810
wings Thunderbirds

1745
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:41,070
and we had a whole slap of these

1746
01:15:46,770 --> 01:15:44,040
Thunderbird winged 20-foot wingspan

1747
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:46,780
feathered creatures like around in the

1748
01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:50,530
in the 70s and in Illinois the the

1749
01:15:55,170 --> 01:15:52,360
best-known one was where picked up a

1750
01:15:57,780 --> 01:15:55,180
little boy and ran away with him in

1751
01:16:00,300 --> 01:15:57,790
Lawndale Illinois and I just I find that

1752
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,310
amazing that they tally so well to the

1753
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:02,560
ancient Native American descriptions of

1754
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:05,350
these these Thunderbirds and then you

1755
01:16:10,590 --> 01:16:07,330
know you even go down into South America

1756
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:10,600
and you've got Quetzalcoatl which is the

1757
01:16:16,290 --> 01:16:13,630
feathered flying serpent which is

1758
01:16:18,660 --> 01:16:16,300
another type of great feathered bird

1759
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:18,670
it's got a little different aspect to it

1760
01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:21,070
in the way that it's it's more like a

1761
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:23,380
serpent which makes it sound almost more

1762
01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:27,310
like a feathered dragon I know let's go

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01:16:31,230 --> 01:16:29,260
into more of this our next segment with

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01:21:09,150 --> 01:21:00,210
listening to the podcast

1876
01:21:12,180 --> 01:21:09,160
[Music]

1877
01:21:14,980 --> 01:21:12,190
with gene and Kristen the para casts

1878
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:14,990
American monsters bird-like creatures

1879
01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:17,210
all sorts of things and we continue our

1880
01:21:21,190 --> 01:21:19,490
focus with Linda Godfrey Chris you want

1881
01:21:23,470 --> 01:21:21,200
to pick up on the questioning you know

1882
01:21:26,110 --> 01:21:23,480
again that that we're getting into this

1883
01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:26,120
differentiation between types based on

1884
01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:29,900
their you know their activity and you

1885
01:21:34,030 --> 01:21:31,870
know down in Texas for instance says

1886
01:21:35,980 --> 01:21:34,040
fairly recently within the last five or

1887
01:21:39,700 --> 01:21:35,990
six years there've been sightings of

1888
01:21:41,530 --> 01:21:39,710
these pterosaur flying reptile and let's

1889
01:21:43,870 --> 01:21:41,540
remember everybody that when you talk

1890
01:21:45,460 --> 01:21:43,880
about something flying in the case that

1891
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:45,470
Linda described in our last segment

1892
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:49,040
where the witness was able to ascertain

1893
01:21:54,430 --> 01:21:52,130
the size in their minds very accurately

1894
01:21:57,340 --> 01:21:54,440
of a 20-foot wingspan now that's twice

1895
01:21:59,620 --> 01:21:57,350
as big as the largest known flying bird

1896
01:22:02,440 --> 01:21:59,630
which I believe is a Peruvian Condor as

1897
01:22:04,990 --> 01:22:02,450
maybe some of them go up to 11 feet

1898
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:05,000
maybe just a shade above that but we're

1899
01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:06,560
talking about something twice that big

1900
01:22:11,340 --> 01:22:08,390
so you know you mentioned this to an

1901
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:11,350
ornithologist or some sort of aviary

1902
01:22:16,630 --> 01:22:14,480
expert a bird X but no they'll scoff and

1903
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:16,640
say well that's you know that's that's

1904
01:22:20,350 --> 01:22:17,930
impossible it's ludicrous

1905
01:22:22,690 --> 01:22:20,360
and yet we have very good reliable

1906
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:22,700
witnesses in reporting creatures that

1907
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:24,530
are twice as big as any known flying

1908
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:27,170
creature you know again you mentioned

1909
01:22:30,850 --> 01:22:29,210
these Illinois the Illinois side is what

1910
01:22:32,830 --> 01:22:30,860
do you remember in what you're in the

1911
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:32,840
70s that was I know there was the famous

1912
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:35,360
one in the 1800s where the there was a

1913
01:22:39,490 --> 01:22:37,490
little boy picked up for there I think

1914
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:39,500
along the Missouri of the Mississippi

1915
01:22:45,370 --> 01:22:41,930
River some somewhere and then carried

1916
01:22:47,980 --> 01:22:45,380
off in front of a whole town picnic but

1917
01:22:50,380 --> 01:22:47,990
what you was the flap that you were

1918
01:22:52,540 --> 01:22:50,390
referring to what time period well the

1919
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:52,550
one that the the Lawndale incident

1920
01:22:58,690 --> 01:22:57,050
belong to was in 1977 it was so big in

1921
01:23:00,520 --> 01:22:58,700
the papers there were either one or two

1922
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:00,530
of these giant birds flying all around

1923
01:23:06,340 --> 01:23:03,440
Illinois and the press had nicknamed it

1924
01:23:08,430 --> 01:23:06,350
big claw which i think is kind of funny

1925
01:23:12,460 --> 01:23:08,440
you know cuz you have big foot big claw

1926
01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:12,470
yeah and then one of them grabbed on to

1927
01:23:16,090 --> 01:23:14,390
this little 10 year old boy and started

1928
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,100
flying away with it

1929
01:23:20,110 --> 01:23:17,840
he weighed about sixty pounds so you can

1930
01:23:23,290 --> 01:23:20,120
imagine how large the bird would have to

1931
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:23,300
be to pick up a 60 pound boy

1932
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:25,370
and luckily his mother was screaming

1933
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:28,250
bloody murder chasing the bird as it was

1934
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:29,840
trying to get off the ground with him

1935
01:23:35,980 --> 01:23:32,480
and finally he was dropped and wasn't

1936
01:23:38,650 --> 01:23:35,990
really hurt luckily but that's kind of

1937
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:38,660
when this always was going on where's

1938
01:23:44,830 --> 01:23:43,250
that nightmare yeah can you imagine yeah

1939
01:23:46,330 --> 01:23:44,840
you just won't even think but you know

1940
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:46,340
talking about credible witnesses that

1941
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:48,170
first one that I had mentioned before

1942
01:23:53,140 --> 01:23:50,960
this witness was impeccable he was a you

1943
01:23:54,910 --> 01:23:53,150
know well-to-do businessman this was a

1944
01:23:57,970 --> 01:23:54,920
morning said he was out for a morning

1945
01:24:00,010 --> 01:23:57,980
bike ride so the weather was excellent

1946
01:24:02,890 --> 01:24:00,020
the light was excellent this perfect

1947
01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:02,900
visibility he ran into the field and

1948
01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:04,460
actually got quite close to it he said

1949
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:06,470
he was so excited put his bike down and

1950
01:24:09,940 --> 01:24:08,510
just like a kid running to meet Mickey

1951
01:24:12,210 --> 01:24:09,950
Mouse you know because you saw this

1952
01:24:16,420 --> 01:24:12,220
thing that was so wonderful and unusual

1953
01:24:18,130 --> 01:24:16,430
Travis Walton he got about halfway into

1954
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:18,140
the field and thought what if it has a

1955
01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:20,510
nest and that was about the time the

1956
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:21,920
bird turned and looked at him and then

1957
01:24:26,020 --> 01:24:23,690
it started luckily for him taking off

1958
01:24:28,210 --> 01:24:26,030
rather than you know taking after him

1959
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:28,220
it's really hard to argue with a witness

1960
01:24:32,590 --> 01:24:29,810
like that he gave his full name you know

1961
01:24:34,630 --> 01:24:32,600
he didn't mind people knowing it wanted

1962
01:24:36,670 --> 01:24:34,640
nothing for it you know why would a

1963
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:36,680
person like that make this sort of thing

1964
01:24:41,290 --> 01:24:39,530
up and he had no background in the

1965
01:24:43,810 --> 01:24:41,300
history of giant birds or anything like

1966
01:24:47,230 --> 01:24:43,820
that it was a totally new phenomenon to

1967
01:24:49,480 --> 01:24:47,240
him so what other types of bird forms we

1968
01:24:51,670 --> 01:24:49,490
have let's say the South East would be

1969
01:24:53,710 --> 01:24:51,680
an example of an area that you wouldn't

1970
01:24:56,050 --> 01:24:53,720
normally associate with giant winged

1971
01:24:57,550 --> 01:24:56,060
creatures you know MOC Mothman would be

1972
01:24:59,530 --> 01:24:57,560
kind of an exception that's a little

1973
01:25:01,210 --> 01:24:59,540
further north but do we have any any

1974
01:25:03,790 --> 01:25:01,220
sightings of these creatures in the deep

1975
01:25:06,460 --> 01:25:03,800
south would say and the more kind of

1976
01:25:08,890 --> 01:25:06,470
tropical areas of the country

1977
01:25:10,510 --> 01:25:08,900
I think they generally you know Texas

1978
01:25:13,930 --> 01:25:10,520
has had a lot of the pterosaur type

1979
01:25:15,730 --> 01:25:13,940
kings as you have said and then we have

1980
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,740
well let's see I kind of call me combing

1981
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:17,600
my brain here trying to think of that

1982
01:25:21,730 --> 01:25:19,040
part of the territory I'm thinking of

1983
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:21,740
there are the kind of bat winged ones

1984
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:24,170
which are like the New Jersey Devil up

1985
01:25:28,750 --> 01:25:26,510
in New Jersey which gets you into a

1986
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:28,760
whole other type of thing by the way

1987
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:29,210
these

1988
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:32,090
that winged creatures show up in

1989
01:25:37,330 --> 01:25:34,730
Pennsylvania in Ohio and even over

1990
01:25:39,070 --> 01:25:37,340
downtown Chicago which I think is really

1991
01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:39,080
really weird why don't you give us a

1992
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:41,480
little detail around yeah this was

1993
01:25:45,970 --> 01:25:43,850
within about the same timeframe and

1994
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:45,980
again I don't always have these things

1995
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:47,570
perfectly

1996
01:25:51,190 --> 01:25:49,280
you know rooted in my brain to give you

1997
01:25:55,570 --> 01:25:51,200
the year but in several different

1998
01:25:57,670 --> 01:25:55,580
incidents these creatures that were they

1999
01:26:00,180 --> 01:25:57,680
look like man-sized but with very large

2000
01:26:04,209 --> 01:26:00,190
wing spans and they were bat-like wings

2001
01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:04,219
were seen let's say there was one that

2002
01:26:10,150 --> 01:26:08,450
flew on August 22nd 2011 and surprised a

2003
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:10,160
married couple and they actually got a

2004
01:26:16,570 --> 01:26:13,910
photo of it and this was in the UFO case

2005
01:26:18,970 --> 01:26:16,580
book I found this one and then a month

2006
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:18,980
later six students in the University

2007
01:26:23,530 --> 01:26:21,290
Park neighborhood also saw a bat-like

2008
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:23,540
creature and this time they watched as

2009
01:26:27,850 --> 01:26:25,910
it launched itself from the ground and

2010
01:26:30,010 --> 01:26:27,860
made one of those giant whooshing sounds

2011
01:26:32,050 --> 01:26:30,020
and many of these sightings to include

2012
01:26:34,540 --> 01:26:32,060
that detail of the giant whooshing sound

2013
01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:34,550
that's really different to then I mean

2014
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:36,710
you can explain things you know if it's

2015
01:26:40,209 --> 01:26:38,090
just up in the air you can say well they

2016
01:26:42,370 --> 01:26:40,219
were just seeing a bat but they saw the

2017
01:26:44,770 --> 01:26:42,380
man's eyes creature on the ground launch

2018
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:44,780
and then fly away that's really hard to

2019
01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:46,730
explain and there were six of them you

2020
01:26:50,979 --> 01:26:49,280
know so six people watching and that's a

2021
01:26:54,010 --> 01:26:50,989
recent sighting that's only like four

2022
01:26:55,540 --> 01:26:54,020
years ago not even yeah exactly and

2023
01:26:57,370 --> 01:26:55,550
there was there was a third one too and

2024
01:27:00,220 --> 01:26:57,380
there was a group of people and this

2025
01:27:02,620 --> 01:27:00,230
thing was only about 12 feet overhead

2026
01:27:06,910 --> 01:27:02,630
and when it's looked over and they

2027
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:06,920
described it as a man with bat wings now

2028
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:09,650
I suppose some of these you could

2029
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:12,320
explain away as perhaps if there was a

2030
01:27:16,450 --> 01:27:14,030
cliff or something nearby maybe a city

2031
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:16,460
building would also qualify as being

2032
01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:19,310
somebody in one of these glider type of

2033
01:27:23,709 --> 01:27:22,070
sport wing things you know and these get

2034
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:23,719
more and more sophisticated all the time

2035
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,000
where people can bring suit yeah wing

2036
01:27:30,610 --> 01:27:27,920
suits and different types of lighters

2037
01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:30,620
exactly so you never know maybe that's

2038
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:32,480
what some of them were seeing but it

2039
01:27:37,540 --> 01:27:34,610
still seems kind of unlikely for being

2040
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:37,550
able to explain away all of them right

2041
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:39,410
but you know interesting to note that

2042
01:27:42,580 --> 01:27:41,840
one of the most recent consistent

2043
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:42,590
outbreaks

2044
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,120
of similarly described sightings in the

2045
01:27:51,190 --> 01:27:48,800
San Luis Valley in the west side of the

2046
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:51,200
valley are flying humanoid reports of

2047
01:27:56,260 --> 01:27:54,050
human-like forms that have giant bat

2048
01:27:59,470 --> 01:27:56,270
wings and I think we're up to around 19

2049
01:28:01,600 --> 01:27:59,480
or 20 individual reports including for

2050
01:28:04,510 --> 01:28:01,610
the town garbage man early in the

2051
01:28:06,580 --> 01:28:04,520
morning the town the mailman and two law

2052
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:06,590
enforcement officials in different

2053
01:28:10,690 --> 01:28:08,570
separate sightings these are fairly

2054
01:28:12,850 --> 01:28:10,700
consistent around the around the country

2055
01:28:15,550 --> 01:28:12,860
as I found looking into this a little

2056
01:28:17,860 --> 01:28:15,560
bit more but they're rare compared to

2057
01:28:19,810 --> 01:28:17,870
the giant bird forms I think you know

2058
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:19,820
dollars to doughnuts the bird forum is

2059
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:22,370
the more likely type of description that

2060
01:28:26,530 --> 01:28:25,040
you're going to encounter so what do you

2061
01:28:28,420 --> 01:28:26,540
make of this I mean it smacks of

2062
01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:28,430
something paranormal because these you

2063
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:30,350
know if there's a breeding population of

2064
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:32,150
these things that we should be able to

2065
01:28:38,430 --> 01:28:35,090
zero in on on them easier where they

2066
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:38,440
nest where they where the Rookery is

2067
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,090
there's just something that smacks of

2068
01:28:45,070 --> 01:28:43,280
the paranormal to me about them yeah

2069
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:45,080
because you just can't imagine where

2070
01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:47,510
these creatures could be breeding and

2071
01:28:52,210 --> 01:28:49,520
flying around in numbers large enough to

2072
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:52,220
have a population without being seen

2073
01:28:57,850 --> 01:28:54,530
somewhere now one thing that did occur

2074
01:28:59,560 --> 01:28:57,860
to me was when I was looking at all the

2075
01:29:02,110 --> 01:28:59,570
dates for these sightings and how many

2076
01:29:04,210 --> 01:29:02,120
of them occurred in the mid 70s sick

2077
01:29:06,190 --> 01:29:04,220
late 60s and mid 70s

2078
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:06,200
I just coincidentally came or

2079
01:29:11,380 --> 01:29:07,970
synchronistically perhaps this better

2080
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:11,390
word came across something on when the

2081
01:29:16,810 --> 01:29:13,730
amazon highway started to be built

2082
01:29:19,090 --> 01:29:16,820
through the Amazon rainforest now Amazon

2083
01:29:22,150 --> 01:29:19,100
rainforest you know has been just a

2084
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:22,160
sanctuary for different sorts of

2085
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:24,890
creatures for many years until of course

2086
01:29:28,930 --> 01:29:27,110
Western civilization starts going in

2087
01:29:32,650 --> 01:29:28,940
there and tearing out the trees to put a

2088
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:32,660
big nice highway through and when that

2089
01:29:37,900 --> 01:29:35,330
started happening was about the same

2090
01:29:40,660 --> 01:29:37,910
time as this massive bird flap that went

2091
01:29:44,020 --> 01:29:40,670
up through the Midwest and you can

2092
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:44,030
almost see a migratory corridor going up

2093
01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:47,690
along Mississippi River yeah good point

2094
01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:49,280
that's also when they were starting to

2095
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:51,920
expand the the cattle ranches too and to

2096
01:29:55,620 --> 01:29:53,330
the ants Thun yeah

2097
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,630
and so you have this opening up of the

2098
01:29:59,970 --> 01:29:58,239
territory that had formerly been sort of

2099
01:30:02,160 --> 01:29:59,980
snack or synced and where they probably

2100
01:30:04,110 --> 01:30:02,170
felt safe and that all of a sudden

2101
01:30:06,450 --> 01:30:04,120
they're getting rousted out and have to

2102
01:30:08,010 --> 01:30:06,460
go somewhere and the Mississippi River

2103
01:30:10,830 --> 01:30:08,020
you know a lot much of it there are

2104
01:30:12,810 --> 01:30:10,840
great cliffs I know that where it forms

2105
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:12,820
the border between Wisconsin and

2106
01:30:17,790 --> 01:30:15,610
Minnesota there's some wonderful cliff

2107
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:17,800
areas and then of course we've had

2108
01:30:23,419 --> 01:30:20,650
sightings of what might be remnant relic

2109
01:30:26,340 --> 01:30:23,429
species relics of the species of

2110
01:30:30,209 --> 01:30:26,350
Washington's Eagle that was documented

2111
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:30,219
by Audubon we have Linda Godfrey joining

2112
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:46,879
[Music]

2113
01:30:50,669 --> 01:30:49,379
first game attack of the rock ODEs and

2114
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:50,679
it was a critically acclaimed success

2115
01:30:54,330 --> 01:30:52,810
and now there is the coming of the

2116
01:30:56,850 --> 01:30:54,340
protectors a former military

2117
01:30:59,070 --> 01:30:56,860
intelligence man is contacted by a space

2118
01:31:01,680 --> 01:30:59,080
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

2119
01:31:03,209 --> 01:31:01,690
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

2120
01:31:04,260 --> 01:31:03,219
our distant planet are planning to

2121
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,270
conquer the earth

2122
01:31:09,060 --> 01:31:06,639
this is gripping science fiction of the

2123
01:31:11,129 --> 01:31:09,070
classic kind attack of the rock codes

2124
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:11,139
and the coming of the protectors find

2125
01:31:17,490 --> 01:31:13,090
out more at Rocko it's calm

2126
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:17,500
that's Rocko it's our ock oids calm so

2127
01:31:21,959 --> 01:31:19,090
here's what happened I was placing an

2128
01:31:24,209 --> 01:31:21,969
order online the site went down it took

2129
01:31:26,010 --> 01:31:24,219
hours before it returned but I'd already

2130
01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:26,020
placed the order with another company if

2131
01:31:29,970 --> 01:31:28,030
your site goes down you could lose

2132
01:31:31,890 --> 01:31:29,980
business and if you have a business or

2133
01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:31,900
personal site you'll want to know it's

2134
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:34,719
easy to run and it will stay online at

2135
01:31:41,070 --> 01:31:38,170
iWeb your site is hosted on one of the

2136
01:31:43,919 --> 01:31:41,080
most reliable networks in the world talk

2137
01:31:46,050 --> 01:31:43,929
to a sales rep at iWeb comm use the

2138
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:46,060
promo code tech night out for a special

2139
01:31:50,610 --> 01:31:48,489
discount as the New World Order

2140
01:31:53,220 --> 01:31:50,620
continues to tighten its grip on every

2141
01:31:55,530 --> 01:31:53,230
facet of our lives we're all asking

2142
01:31:58,860 --> 01:31:55,540
ourselves how can we maintain our

2143
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2221
01:35:12,610 --> 01:35:09,920
time this week with Linda Godfrey and

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Jean and Chris on the podcast we've been

2223
01:35:18,940 --> 01:35:15,380
covering all sorts of case histories and

2224
01:35:21,490 --> 01:35:18,950
the fact that as we explore the

2225
01:35:24,910 --> 01:35:21,500
wilderness we kind of kick these

2226
01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:24,920
creatures out do we frighten them Linda

2227
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:27,230
or they were just hiding there and

2228
01:35:32,260 --> 01:35:29,690
because we never explored the area they

2229
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:32,270
didn't feel disturbed well and again

2230
01:35:36,610 --> 01:35:34,880
this is pure speculation you know it's

2231
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:36,620
it's not even a theory because it's not

2232
01:35:41,650 --> 01:35:39,050
testable it's just pure speculation but

2233
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:41,660
my idea was well if all of a sudden

2234
01:35:45,370 --> 01:35:43,370
these giant machines are coming here and

2235
01:35:46,930 --> 01:35:45,380
ripping out their habitat they're forced

2236
01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:46,940
to go elsewhere and they're gonna look

2237
01:35:52,180 --> 01:35:50,060
for some sort of place where like cliffs

2238
01:35:53,950 --> 01:35:52,190
are a natural place for anything that

2239
01:35:55,570 --> 01:35:53,960
has a hard time getting lift because

2240
01:35:58,300 --> 01:35:55,580
because it's so big because they can

2241
01:36:00,580 --> 01:35:58,310
jump off and and have air streams and

2242
01:36:02,740 --> 01:36:00,590
when wind forces to kind of play around

2243
01:36:05,470 --> 01:36:02,750
with so it makes a lot of sense that

2244
01:36:08,140 --> 01:36:05,480
they would fly up a major river corridor

2245
01:36:10,900 --> 01:36:08,150
and then you end up with sightings of

2246
01:36:12,820 --> 01:36:10,910
Washington's Eagle or a bat Squatch in

2247
01:36:15,220 --> 01:36:12,830
La Crosse Wisconsin that sort of thing

2248
01:36:18,370 --> 01:36:15,230
you know it's interesting to note too

2249
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:18,380
that river systems tend to be epicenters

2250
01:36:23,170 --> 01:36:20,930
of for sightings of cryptids of all

2251
01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:23,180
types of aquatic land air the

2252
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:26,060
Mississippi the Ohio you can you can

2253
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:28,730
almost look at a map of sighting reports

2254
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:31,130
and they do tend to cluster around the

2255
01:36:36,669 --> 01:36:33,530
larger river systems which

2256
01:36:38,770 --> 01:36:36,679
leads us to another category which a lot

2257
01:36:42,970 --> 01:36:38,780
of people would be surprised to find the

2258
01:36:45,220 --> 01:36:42,980
vast numbers of aquatic monsters that

2259
01:36:46,839 --> 01:36:45,230
have been cited over generations in

2260
01:36:49,589 --> 01:36:46,849
North America of course we have our

2261
01:36:53,890 --> 01:36:49,599
famous Champi up in Lake Champlain

2262
01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:53,900
what's that oh go go go go go up in

2263
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:55,760
Canada and of course the most famous of

2264
01:36:59,709 --> 01:36:57,170
all of course is Nessie or the Loch Ness

2265
01:37:01,720 --> 01:36:59,719
monster but there are looking through

2266
01:37:05,250 --> 01:37:01,730
your book I was astounded at how many

2267
01:37:07,959 --> 01:37:05,260
different types of frog men mermaids

2268
01:37:10,359 --> 01:37:07,969
Giants makes all sorts of different

2269
01:37:11,890 --> 01:37:10,369
types of aquatic creatures that are you

2270
01:37:14,109 --> 01:37:11,900
know not only in freshwater rivers but

2271
01:37:17,260 --> 01:37:14,119
also in in some of the estuaries and

2272
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Bay's and harbors in North America when

2273
01:37:21,279 --> 01:37:19,159
she give us a rundown and some of your

2274
01:37:23,260 --> 01:37:21,289
favorites well yeah I had a lot of

2275
01:37:25,660 --> 01:37:23,270
favorites and yet you know if there was

2276
01:37:27,459 --> 01:37:25,670
any section where I really felt I was

2277
01:37:30,729 --> 01:37:27,469
giving it short shrift but it was this

2278
01:37:33,250 --> 01:37:30,739
one because there were so many Lake and

2279
01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:33,260
River Monsters all over the country all

2280
01:37:36,910 --> 01:37:35,119
I could do was pick out a few of each

2281
01:37:39,490 --> 01:37:36,920
type it was really difficult and

2282
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:39,500
frustrating there were so so many other

2283
01:37:45,310 --> 01:37:42,650
ones but it runs the gamut from you know

2284
01:37:47,319 --> 01:37:45,320
I started with aquatic alias because

2285
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:47,329
most people don't think of those as

2286
01:37:53,260 --> 01:37:50,239
water monsters but the fact is many UFOs

2287
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:53,270
are seen coming out of rivers lakes and

2288
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,090
oceans there's a growing theory that

2289
01:38:01,540 --> 01:37:59,360
UFOs are actually living things some are

2290
01:38:03,129 --> 01:38:01,550
hard nuts and bolts and some are living

2291
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:03,139
things according to some people and

2292
01:38:09,339 --> 01:38:06,110
again you can get into the the two camps

2293
01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:09,349
and but certainly the creatures fit our

2294
01:38:13,689 --> 01:38:11,119
definition of monsters you know they

2295
01:38:15,549 --> 01:38:13,699
look like some sort of weirdly deformed

2296
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:15,559
humans and that's from a very human

2297
01:38:20,169 --> 01:38:17,690
centric point of view they probably look

2298
01:38:22,029 --> 01:38:20,179
perfectly normal to themselves but again

2299
01:38:24,250 --> 01:38:22,039
the big eye sometimes there's glowing

2300
01:38:27,069 --> 01:38:24,260
this a little claw like hands

2301
01:38:29,319 --> 01:38:27,079
abducting people so I started out with

2302
01:38:31,419 --> 01:38:29,329
those thinking they were one really

2303
01:38:33,580 --> 01:38:31,429
interesting category to look at then

2304
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:33,590
you've got the classic mermaids

2305
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:35,570
half-human half-fish which is a very

2306
01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:40,159
very ancient idea to going way back to

2307
01:38:44,819 --> 01:38:43,070
whatever we have records of people are

2308
01:38:47,110 --> 01:38:44,829
talking about half people have fish

2309
01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:47,120
especially especially you think

2310
01:38:52,630 --> 01:38:50,450
the Greek legends about the Greek gods

2311
01:38:54,910 --> 01:38:52,640
they're very prominent you've got

2312
01:38:57,580 --> 01:38:54,920
different kinds of Reptoids like Gator

2313
01:38:59,320 --> 01:38:57,590
man one of my most chilling things in

2314
01:39:02,550 --> 01:38:59,330
the book I think what's the chapter on

2315
01:39:05,140 --> 01:39:02,560
Gator man which is a young man who I

2316
01:39:07,660 --> 01:39:05,150
really did a lot of background research

2317
01:39:10,030 --> 01:39:07,670
and he checked out in every way

2318
01:39:13,410 --> 01:39:10,040
studying oceanography and different

2319
01:39:18,570 --> 01:39:13,420
types of marine biology and he's had

2320
01:39:22,450 --> 01:39:18,580
what looks like this giant actually a

2321
01:39:25,210 --> 01:39:22,460
extinct type of alligator that walks it

2322
01:39:27,970 --> 01:39:25,220
does walk on its hind legs in ways that

2323
01:39:31,150 --> 01:39:27,980
he's never seen modern Gators do sort of

2324
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:31,160
stalking him whether by boat or all the

2325
01:39:36,820 --> 01:39:34,610
way home to his own pier seemed like it

2326
01:39:39,310 --> 01:39:36,830
was attacking his boat when he was out

2327
01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:39,320
there one day in it and it's been this

2328
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:41,720
sort of ongoing thing for two years it

2329
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:44,000
calmed down recently I've stayed in

2330
01:39:48,490 --> 01:39:46,730
touch with him but it's reminded me of

2331
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:48,500
you know in Peter Pan where Captain Hook

2332
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:50,090
has this Gator with the clock and its

2333
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:52,010
stomach and every time it gets near him

2334
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:53,330
it's going tick tick tick tick and

2335
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:55,040
that's kind of how this thing has been

2336
01:40:00,250 --> 01:39:58,010
following this one guy around kind of

2337
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:00,260
like it fixated on him and then you get

2338
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:02,810
to the classic sea monsters and you go

2339
01:40:08,130 --> 01:40:06,050
back and look and there was so much

2340
01:40:12,340 --> 01:40:08,140
going on this is going back to the 17

2341
01:40:15,310 --> 01:40:12,350
1800s when they were seen regularly as

2342
01:40:18,430 --> 01:40:15,320
the first ships from Europe were coming

2343
01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:18,440
into the East eastern coastal waters of

2344
01:40:22,420 --> 01:40:20,450
the United States and they're

2345
01:40:25,390 --> 01:40:22,430
documenting these things that look like

2346
01:40:28,060 --> 01:40:25,400
giant living creatures and people were

2347
01:40:30,190 --> 01:40:28,070
seeing them from shore there were many

2348
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:30,200
many records of them I was really very

2349
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:32,630
surprised when I looked to see this you

2350
01:40:38,890 --> 01:40:34,930
know at how many there were from

2351
01:40:41,470 --> 01:40:38,900
centuries ago and then as you go

2352
01:40:45,730 --> 01:40:41,480
state-by-state almost every state has

2353
01:40:48,220 --> 01:40:45,740
its lakes that have monsters in them off

2354
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:48,230
to the present day you know did you see

2355
01:40:52,630 --> 01:40:49,610
the article that came out recently about

2356
01:40:56,140 --> 01:40:52,640
the the guys that champy Lake Champlain

2357
01:40:58,150 --> 01:40:56,150
monster investigators that had a an

2358
01:41:00,250 --> 01:40:58,160
acoustic instrument they were towing

2359
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:00,260
behind the boat and they picked up what

2360
01:41:04,990 --> 01:41:00,650
sound

2361
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:05,000
when they did research into the actual

2362
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:08,090
acoustic signature these these screeches

2363
01:41:12,370 --> 01:41:10,790
and and other high-pitched sounds and

2364
01:41:15,459 --> 01:41:12,380
the only thing that they could come up

2365
01:41:18,669 --> 01:41:15,469
with that was similar was beluga whales

2366
01:41:21,610 --> 01:41:18,679
of all things which of course does not

2367
01:41:23,410 --> 01:41:21,620
conform to your typical chant

2368
01:41:25,689 --> 01:41:23,420
description which is more like a locking

2369
01:41:29,410 --> 01:41:25,699
sponsor long necks or a pleaseö sore

2370
01:41:31,959 --> 01:41:29,420
type form to me is it's intriguing that

2371
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:31,969
you could have one form possibly

2372
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:33,770
imitating the vocalizations of another

2373
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:37,250
form if you want to go and kind of what

2374
01:41:43,540 --> 01:41:40,850
if the data right and maybe it is some

2375
01:41:45,790 --> 01:41:43,550
sort of unknown form of sea creature

2376
01:41:47,770 --> 01:41:45,800
that would have a similar vocal

2377
01:41:49,930 --> 01:41:47,780
structure who knows it's really hard to

2378
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:49,940
tell but um you know and in a lot of

2379
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:53,360
these cases I do think that came back to

2380
01:41:58,030 --> 01:41:55,730
the original question of you know how do

2381
01:42:00,820 --> 01:41:58,040
we know which which ones of them have

2382
01:42:03,959 --> 01:42:00,830
let have a basis in an actual natural

2383
01:42:06,970 --> 01:42:03,969
creature it could be that some of these

2384
01:42:09,850 --> 01:42:06,980
lake and water monsters do because I

2385
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:09,860
really think that even though it's true

2386
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:11,690
that many of the lakes they're said to

2387
01:42:16,810 --> 01:42:14,210
be in are supposed to be too small for

2388
01:42:19,149 --> 01:42:16,820
their breeding purposes that maybe there

2389
01:42:21,970 --> 01:42:19,159
are deep underwater fissures that go

2390
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:21,980
other places maybe to other larger

2391
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:25,370
bodies of water even oceans I don't know

2392
01:42:32,399 --> 01:42:28,130
if this has ever been proved but there

2393
01:42:34,810 --> 01:42:32,409
are many places in our ocean bottoms and

2394
01:42:37,630 --> 01:42:34,820
larger bodies of water that haven't

2395
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:37,640
really been well explored you know for

2396
01:42:43,300 --> 01:42:40,850
various reasons yeah 2% of the world's

2397
01:42:45,729 --> 01:42:43,310
oceans have been explored and exactly

2398
01:42:49,689 --> 01:42:45,739
the best I mean that's the great unknown

2399
01:42:51,610 --> 01:42:49,699
on this planet obviously sdp you know I

2400
01:42:54,729 --> 01:42:51,620
was always struck of course the famous

2401
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:54,739
book about UFO correlations with waters

2402
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:56,480
bodies of water of course is 5nt

2403
01:43:00,729 --> 01:42:58,610
Sanderson's classic the invisible

2404
01:43:03,700 --> 01:43:00,739
residents and he made the astounding

2405
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:03,710
statement in there which I kind of had

2406
01:43:08,380 --> 01:43:06,890
to really kneel twice because I didn't I

2407
01:43:11,979 --> 01:43:08,390
couldn't believe what I was reading he

2408
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,989
says that 50% of all UFO sightings that

2409
01:43:17,810 --> 01:43:14,400
he was aware of have to do

2410
01:43:20,570 --> 01:43:17,820
bodies of water with in conjunction with

2411
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:20,580
UFOs so maybe maybe there was there's

2412
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:23,520
something to that yeah I I think that

2413
01:43:28,220 --> 01:43:26,090
there is there's a really big connection

2414
01:43:31,190 --> 01:43:28,230
people are especially around the Great

2415
01:43:32,420 --> 01:43:31,200
Lakes there are many many sightings that

2416
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:32,430
that bear that out

2417
01:43:36,890 --> 01:43:35,280
and I had a chance when I was working

2418
01:43:39,050 --> 01:43:36,900
for the newspaper you know I started out

2419
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:39,060
as a newspaper reporter for it for ten

2420
01:43:43,940 --> 01:43:42,210
years and that was all those 10 of those

2421
01:43:46,130 --> 01:43:43,950
years where after I broke the story of

2422
01:43:47,810 --> 01:43:46,140
the beast of Bray Road I did very little

2423
01:43:51,890 --> 01:43:47,820
on that during that time but I was able

2424
01:43:54,650 --> 01:43:51,900
to interview an airport director who had

2425
01:43:58,760 --> 01:43:54,660
one time been in the US military

2426
01:44:00,620 --> 01:43:58,770
stationed in Puerto Rico and he said

2427
01:44:03,530 --> 01:44:00,630
that they would constantly they had

2428
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:03,540
cameras mounted on their their guns and

2429
01:44:08,210 --> 01:44:06,210
they would watch through the scopes just

2430
01:44:10,220 --> 01:44:08,220
to see the UFO was coming out of the

2431
01:44:12,710 --> 01:44:10,230
water and they would always take

2432
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:12,720
pictures of them and the next day there

2433
01:44:15,770 --> 01:44:14,370
would always be men and black there to

2434
01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:15,780
take away whatever they had taken

2435
01:44:19,940 --> 01:44:18,360
pictures of and go with it but he said

2436
01:44:22,910 --> 01:44:19,950
it was just common knowledge that if you

2437
01:44:25,580 --> 01:44:22,920
looked through the gun scopes you could

2438
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:25,590
see these things very very often and

2439
01:44:32,510 --> 01:44:28,530
they actually had people whose business

2440
01:44:34,670 --> 01:44:32,520
it was to go around and compensate

2441
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:34,680
farmers for the damage that you have

2442
01:44:41,230 --> 01:44:36,690
voted to their crops and that sort of

2443
01:44:44,330 --> 01:44:41,240
thing and he even he was on one such

2444
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:44,340
expedition and the farmer was really

2445
01:44:49,610 --> 01:44:46,170
really angry and they could see this

2446
01:44:52,850 --> 01:44:49,620
giant burned circle that lit up their

2447
01:44:57,110 --> 01:44:52,860
Geiger counters and on one side of the

2448
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:57,120
circle was half a dead cow and on the

2449
01:45:01,360 --> 01:44:58,560
other side of the circle was a totally

2450
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:01,370
burnt to a crisp remains of a dead cow

2451
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:04,650
let's stop it here and pick up on this

2452
01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:06,000
fast at anything

2453
01:45:10,340 --> 01:45:07,920
of course we've talked about possible

2454
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:10,350
radiation impact from people who get

2455
01:45:15,950 --> 01:45:12,960
close to UFOs such as in Rendlesham

2456
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:15,960
forest the case of John burrows who only

2457
01:45:21,710 --> 01:45:19,890
recently got coverage by the VA Linda

2458
01:45:26,930 --> 01:45:21,720
Godfrey with Gene and Kris you're in the

2459
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:30,600
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2460
01:45:36,350 --> 01:45:34,000
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2461
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2462
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2465
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2466
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2467
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2468
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2469
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2470
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2471
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2472
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2473
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2474
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:04,960
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2475
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:07,510
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2476
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:09,280
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2477
01:46:13,230 --> 01:46:11,290
banks stockbrokers investment advisors

2478
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:13,240
won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

2479
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:15,010
available since nineteen eighty six yet

2480
01:46:18,660 --> 01:46:16,750
the financial industry won't recognize

2481
01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:18,670
the value of gold for your retirement

2482
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:20,590
gold has outperformed paper investments

2483
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:22,690
yet no word about IRAs if you would like

2484
01:46:28,110 --> 01:46:24,840
to have gold for your retirement call

2485
01:46:30,440 --> 01:46:28,120
866 to 237 don't get left behind by

2486
01:47:14,840 --> 01:46:30,450
rising inflation and low returns call

2487
01:47:23,190 --> 01:47:21,450
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2488
01:47:28,910 --> 01:47:23,200
pull out your major credit or debit card

2489
01:47:31,490 --> 01:47:28,920
call 185 905 mighty b1 855 905 my TV

2490
01:47:35,930 --> 01:47:31,500
say goodbye to the Cable Guy cut costs

2491
01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:35,940
and get more one 855 905 my TV 180 55

2492
01:47:51,169 --> 01:47:48,060
905 my TV welcome back into the para

2493
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:51,179
cast the gold standard of paranormal

2494
01:48:00,640 --> 01:47:57,770
radio and now here's Jane Steinberg

2495
01:48:03,050 --> 01:48:00,650
[Music]

2496
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:03,060
so I can imagine even here with

2497
01:48:06,370 --> 01:48:04,890
Obamacare where they're supposed to

2498
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:06,380
cover anything without pre-existing

2499
01:48:11,620 --> 01:48:09,570
conditions if you went up to your doctor

2500
01:48:14,090 --> 01:48:11,630
and said I have concerns coverage and

2501
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:14,100
you know I got too close to a crop

2502
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,290
circle and now I'm suffering from

2503
01:48:21,979 --> 01:48:18,960
radiation poisoning what do you do Linda

2504
01:48:25,570 --> 01:48:21,989
Godfrey is here talking about an episode

2505
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:25,580
involving dead critters from radiation

2506
01:48:31,970 --> 01:48:29,310
yeah well you would presume again this

2507
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:31,980
was in Puerto Rico and it was probably

2508
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:36,050
back in the 60s 70s something like that

2509
01:48:41,209 --> 01:48:39,449
northeast corner or southwest corner for

2510
01:48:43,580 --> 01:48:41,219
the Rico that those tend to be the

2511
01:48:45,470 --> 01:48:43,590
hotspots for these things I don't really

2512
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:45,480
know although if you remember Puerto

2513
01:48:50,419 --> 01:48:47,360
Rico is also the big hot spot for the

2514
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:50,429
chupacabras which was you know the goat

2515
01:48:56,270 --> 01:48:53,610
sucker unknown cryptid type of thing

2516
01:48:58,400 --> 01:48:56,280
that really the original descriptions of

2517
01:49:02,870 --> 01:48:58,410
it did not conform to any other known

2518
01:49:05,660 --> 01:49:02,880
yeah and it flew yes exactly

2519
01:49:09,050 --> 01:49:05,670
but in this case again I was talking to

2520
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:09,060
an airport director and this wasn't what

2521
01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:10,410
we were discussing for my newspaper

2522
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:12,000
story it was just we were done with that

2523
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:12,960
and I said okay

2524
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,730
off the record I want to ask you some

2525
01:49:18,530 --> 01:49:16,800
other questions because he had told me

2526
01:49:20,750 --> 01:49:18,540
that he was in the service of Puerto

2527
01:49:22,820 --> 01:49:20,760
Rico and I wanted to find out if he'd

2528
01:49:25,340 --> 01:49:22,830
ever seen anything and yes indeed he had

2529
01:49:26,630 --> 01:49:25,350
and again he was accompanying the

2530
01:49:29,689 --> 01:49:26,640
officer that went around to make

2531
01:49:32,150 --> 01:49:29,699
reparations for whatever the Navy or

2532
01:49:35,150 --> 01:49:32,160
other things that they preferred were

2533
01:49:36,830 --> 01:49:35,160
just not gonna be talked about what

2534
01:49:40,220 --> 01:49:36,840
happened and one such thing was where

2535
01:49:43,130 --> 01:49:40,230
something circular and very large had

2536
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:43,140
come down right in on a farmers near

2537
01:49:50,990 --> 01:49:48,330
farmers corral and a cow unfortunately

2538
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:51,000
was half in half out and it was

2539
01:49:55,459 --> 01:49:53,280
basically it's cremains were laughing

2540
01:49:57,860 --> 01:49:55,469
inside the circle and the circle was

2541
01:50:00,110 --> 01:49:57,870
black and radioactive and you know in

2542
01:50:03,110 --> 01:50:00,120
the farmer was just livid and you know

2543
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:03,120
they had to pay him off and and you

2544
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:06,090
don't normally associate UFOs with the

2545
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:10,250
barbecues no but again you know there's

2546
01:50:16,990 --> 01:50:12,530
many different types and who know it was

2547
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:17,000
what this was exactly no know Porto

2548
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,110
Rico's in many of the islands down there

2549
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:24,320
have very interesting you know in some

2550
01:50:29,620 --> 01:50:27,010
cases the legendary and mythological

2551
01:50:32,440 --> 01:50:29,630
descriptions of of unknown creatures

2552
01:50:34,420 --> 01:50:32,450
that then you know all of a sudden out

2553
01:50:37,180 --> 01:50:34,430
of nowhere will become a flap in the

2554
01:50:39,010 --> 01:50:37,190
modern era of of things that were talked

2555
01:50:40,930 --> 01:50:39,020
about in the in the distant past I

2556
01:50:44,380 --> 01:50:40,940
always thought that that's that's a

2557
01:50:47,110 --> 01:50:44,390
really important correlation that there

2558
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:47,120
may be some sort of cultural echo that

2559
01:50:52,660 --> 01:50:50,690
happens and it reverberates to time and

2560
01:50:54,970 --> 01:50:52,670
these things tend to come back in cycles

2561
01:50:58,060 --> 01:50:54,980
and they'll be interesting to do a

2562
01:51:00,700 --> 01:50:58,070
statistical analysis of outbreaks of

2563
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:00,710
particular types of creatures in a

2564
01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:03,290
particular area and see if we can

2565
01:51:08,020 --> 01:51:06,320
identify patterns because in terms of

2566
01:51:10,450 --> 01:51:08,030
when these waves manifest because if

2567
01:51:12,010 --> 01:51:10,460
we're able to predict where identify a

2568
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:12,020
pattern then we're able to predict

2569
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:14,090
possibly outbreaks and be ready for it

2570
01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:16,850
and have people on the ground alerted

2571
01:51:23,590 --> 01:51:20,710
that hey for over the next year or two

2572
01:51:26,500 --> 01:51:23,600
statistically it's possible that we're

2573
01:51:28,270 --> 01:51:26,510
gonna see some a wave of activity and to

2574
01:51:29,710 --> 01:51:28,280
the end to be ready because that's

2575
01:51:32,170 --> 01:51:29,720
that's all it's as a field investigator

2576
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:32,180
that's always been my sort of my

2577
01:51:39,010 --> 01:51:36,010
ultimate goal is to be able to predict

2578
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:39,020
activity before it occurs which of

2579
01:51:42,940 --> 01:51:40,850
course then gets into the idea of

2580
01:51:43,900 --> 01:51:42,950
science and being able to replicate data

2581
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:43,910
and all that sort of thing

2582
01:51:48,370 --> 01:51:46,250
in a perfect world of course but right

2583
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:48,380
so have you noticed they new sort of

2584
01:51:53,050 --> 01:51:50,450
patterns time correlation patterns have

2585
01:51:55,330 --> 01:51:53,060
you have you had enough the data and and

2586
01:51:58,840 --> 01:51:55,340
had enough the statistical information

2587
01:52:01,990 --> 01:51:58,850
to make any sort of analysis well you

2588
01:52:04,510 --> 01:52:02,000
know what it seems to me is that just

2589
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:04,520
once you think that you have a pattern

2590
01:52:08,350 --> 01:52:06,410
going for a flap it dies out and does

2591
01:52:11,530 --> 01:52:08,360
something else well usually it does the

2592
01:52:13,810 --> 01:52:11,540
exact opposite exactly and I don't I

2593
01:52:15,670 --> 01:52:13,820
don't know if that's possible I would

2594
01:52:17,770 --> 01:52:15,680
look I can't imagine the work it would

2595
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,780
take to go through all the reported

2596
01:52:21,190 --> 01:52:19,520
cases of UFOs although it would be

2597
01:52:24,129 --> 01:52:21,200
wonderful if somebody had the time to do

2598
01:52:25,989 --> 01:52:24,139
this you know and chart them all

2599
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:25,999
and then every other known sighting of

2600
01:52:31,629 --> 01:52:28,010
every other type it would be kind of an

2601
01:52:33,399 --> 01:52:31,639
astronomical feat to accomplish that but

2602
01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:33,409
you know what I I keep going back to

2603
01:52:38,649 --> 01:52:36,800
because I've been rereading this for

2604
01:52:41,919 --> 01:52:38,659
various reasons this Kelleher and

2605
01:52:45,069 --> 01:52:41,929
Knapp's hunt the skinwalker book what

2606
01:52:48,429 --> 01:52:45,079
you had mentioned earlier and I think

2607
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:48,439
about how they had every advantage that

2608
01:52:53,620 --> 01:52:51,530
most paranormal investigators lack you

2609
01:52:58,209 --> 01:52:53,630
know because for instance if I get a

2610
01:53:00,909 --> 01:52:58,219
call that somebody in say southern

2611
01:53:03,250 --> 01:53:00,919
Georgia is having a problem with the dog

2612
01:53:08,739 --> 01:53:03,260
man I can do a lot of things

2613
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:08,749
long-distance private private private

2614
01:53:13,419 --> 01:53:11,570
jet I don't have the top night you know

2615
01:53:16,060 --> 01:53:13,429
FLIR equipment or anything like that

2616
01:53:18,879 --> 01:53:16,070
I'm not funded to be able to do that

2617
01:53:21,759 --> 01:53:18,889
kind of thing and most there's not money

2618
01:53:24,069 --> 01:53:21,769
in in pursuing cryptozoology not even in

2619
01:53:26,169 --> 01:53:24,079
writing about it and any of my

2620
01:53:28,719 --> 01:53:26,179
colleagues that I know have that same

2621
01:53:31,659 --> 01:53:28,729
problem but here was a case where you

2622
01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:31,669
had people bringing in a trailer full of

2623
01:53:40,739 --> 01:53:35,800
the most updated sky's the limit type of

2624
01:53:43,239 --> 01:53:40,749
equipment they also had top scientists

2625
01:53:45,699 --> 01:53:43,249
experienced and trained investigators

2626
01:53:48,279 --> 01:53:45,709
they had total access to the land all

2627
01:53:50,649 --> 01:53:48,289
hours of the day and night they had the

2628
01:53:53,139 --> 01:53:50,659
ideal situation and yet they found

2629
01:53:54,009 --> 01:53:53,149
themselves flummoxed and confounded at

2630
01:53:55,719 --> 01:53:54,019
every turn

2631
01:53:58,359 --> 01:53:55,729
we don't know if that's the that's

2632
01:54:00,489 --> 01:53:58,369
really the case to be honest with you I

2633
01:54:02,290 --> 01:54:00,499
find it very very difficult to believe

2634
01:54:04,060 --> 01:54:02,300
that with that kind of gear that kind of

2635
01:54:06,429 --> 01:54:04,070
talent in a place with that kind of

2636
01:54:08,189 --> 01:54:06,439
reputation and the types of events that

2637
01:54:09,969 --> 01:54:08,199
they allegedly were able to document

2638
01:54:12,189 --> 01:54:09,979
mm-hmm that they weren't able to

2639
01:54:15,489 --> 01:54:12,199
ascertain at least something you know I

2640
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:15,499
think maybe knew more than they were

2641
01:54:20,319 --> 01:54:18,110
letting on that's true that's true but

2642
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:20,329
yet I do think that a lot of the time it

2643
01:54:24,370 --> 01:54:22,729
perhaps to get to that point you know

2644
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:24,380
they had to do some of these other

2645
01:54:28,689 --> 01:54:26,090
things but just just some of the things

2646
01:54:30,759 --> 01:54:28,699
that were it's just that it rang true to

2647
01:54:33,399 --> 01:54:30,769
me because it's the same sort of thing

2648
01:54:35,830 --> 01:54:33,409
that I have experienced at the times

2649
01:54:37,570 --> 01:54:35,840
when I've you know set out experiments

2650
01:54:40,780 --> 01:54:37,580
of my own is that

2651
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:40,790
whatever you think is a given you'll

2652
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:44,570
find out won't work why maybe we should

2653
01:54:51,010 --> 01:54:48,560
start thinking in 180 in a 180 degree

2654
01:54:52,450 --> 01:54:51,020
fashion the thing that we least expect

2655
01:54:54,430 --> 01:54:52,460
to happen is probably what's gonna

2656
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:54,440
happen I think you'll have more success

2657
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,410
if we if we think it's one thing we look

2658
01:55:01,480 --> 01:54:59,840
in one direction at one time period we

2659
01:55:02,860 --> 01:55:01,490
should probably do the exact opposite

2660
01:55:07,060 --> 01:55:02,870
look in the opposite direction at the

2661
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:07,070
exact opposite time period those lines

2662
01:55:11,230 --> 01:55:09,410
I'm being only partially facetious here

2663
01:55:13,900 --> 01:55:11,240
well you know this could have borne out

2664
01:55:16,090 --> 01:55:13,910
with that experience that I had with the

2665
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:16,100
Bigfoot and by the way it was later

2666
01:55:20,410 --> 01:55:18,050
confirmed I was back there in half an

2667
01:55:22,690 --> 01:55:20,420
hour with a friend of two friends and

2668
01:55:25,330 --> 01:55:22,700
one of them actually visually saw the

2669
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,340
Bigfoot we found other evidence of it

2670
01:55:29,530 --> 01:55:27,440
including the the incredible

2671
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:29,540
unmistakable odor and it made

2672
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:31,610
localizations it was very close I mean

2673
01:55:36,430 --> 01:55:33,170
I'm talking within a hundred feet

2674
01:55:39,970 --> 01:55:36,440
something like that when that occurred I

2675
01:55:41,890 --> 01:55:39,980
had not started out so many times you

2676
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:41,900
know I've got people with me I'm lugging

2677
01:55:49,540 --> 01:55:45,410
a bag with cameras and rulers and

2678
01:55:52,690 --> 01:55:49,550
plaster casts and my other recorders

2679
01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:52,700
whatever you name it and we see nothing

2680
01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:55,070
and then in this case I had just decided

2681
01:56:01,090 --> 01:55:58,250
to go take a walk in a nearby area near

2682
01:56:02,740 --> 01:56:01,100
the cattle Marines no camera I didn't

2683
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:02,750
have a cell phone with me it was a

2684
01:56:07,330 --> 01:56:04,970
spur-of-the-moment I was all alone

2685
01:56:10,630 --> 01:56:07,340
that's when I had the answer didn't

2686
01:56:12,340 --> 01:56:10,640
happen god I hate when that happens that

2687
01:56:15,550 --> 01:56:12,350
always happens that way if you're not

2688
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:15,560
equipped to record what you saw suddenly

2689
01:56:22,540 --> 01:56:18,080
it happens as soon as you prepare for it

2690
01:56:27,130 --> 01:56:22,550
it's like some factor as part of the

2691
01:56:29,170 --> 01:56:27,140
phenomenon is there tricking you exactly

2692
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:29,180
and that's what they described in the

2693
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hunt the skinwalker book and that's

2694
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right it's my own experience over and

2695
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:35,360
over and over again and the experience

2696
01:56:40,510 --> 01:56:38,210
of so many other people I know you know

2697
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our friends who are in the ghost hunting

2698
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business which isn't something I do and

2699
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again I use the term business very

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loosely and their favorite slogan is if

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you want to see a ghost don't stand too

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ghost hunter yeah because they never see

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what well especially if they work for a

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reality TV show where it's very unlikely

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they'll ever see anything of any

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importance but well they'll only give

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you the impression they saw something

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because they got to fill 43 minutes of

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American monsters on the agenda and

2802
02:02:07,930 --> 02:02:05,910
sometimes they're connected with UFOs as

2803
02:02:10,910 --> 02:02:07,940
if they were all part of the same

2804
02:02:13,370 --> 02:02:10,920
phenomenon Linda Godfrey and Gian and

2805
02:02:14,930 --> 02:02:13,380
Chris Chris don't we have a question

2806
02:02:17,060 --> 02:02:14,940
from one of our favorite forum

2807
02:02:20,030 --> 02:02:17,070
moderators and occasional guest co-host

2808
02:02:21,890 --> 02:02:20,040
Coggs Makai we do and it's one that I

2809
02:02:23,690 --> 02:02:21,900
really am hoping that Linda knows about

2810
02:02:26,750 --> 02:02:23,700
because if she doesn't I'm gonna be all

2811
02:02:28,580 --> 02:02:26,760
over Dawgs about this one he's asking if

2812
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:28,590
what do you think of the piece of

2813
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:30,810
footage from inside a car that appears

2814
02:02:34,670 --> 02:02:32,850
to show a dog slash wolf-like creature

2815
02:02:36,980 --> 02:02:34,680
running alongside and in front of the

2816
02:02:39,110 --> 02:02:36,990
car before crossing to the side and

2817
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:39,120
seemingly to be standing straight

2818
02:02:43,610 --> 02:02:41,490
upright on two legs as the car passes it

2819
02:02:47,690 --> 02:02:43,620
are you familiar with that you know I

2820
02:02:49,460 --> 02:02:47,700
haven't seen it but I do hear of this

2821
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:49,470
sort of thing happening from witnesses

2822
02:02:54,260 --> 02:02:50,850
more often than you would think

2823
02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:54,270
it's a fairly common place as these

2824
02:03:00,380 --> 02:02:57,360
things go action for the upright canines

2825
02:03:01,700 --> 02:03:00,390
to take know well I've never I haven't

2826
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:01,710
heard that there was actual footage

2827
02:03:06,710 --> 02:03:04,410
taken of an event like this I am aware

2828
02:03:08,270 --> 02:03:06,720
of footage and I have seen it of a

2829
02:03:11,090 --> 02:03:08,280
Bigfoot running across the road in front

2830
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:11,100
of some Hickory Apache teenagers one of

2831
02:03:15,230 --> 02:03:12,810
them was able to get cell phone footage

2832
02:03:18,410 --> 02:03:15,240
of it at night and it's pretty striking

2833
02:03:20,660 --> 02:03:18,420
I didn't look to me very very difficult

2834
02:03:23,180 --> 02:03:20,670
to fabricate something like that and the

2835
02:03:24,980 --> 02:03:23,190
reaction of the kids in the car was real

2836
02:03:27,500 --> 02:03:24,990
these kids weren't acting they were

2837
02:03:29,479 --> 02:03:27,510
terrified sure

2838
02:03:33,140 --> 02:03:29,489
yeah and that's again a really really

2839
02:03:35,570 --> 02:03:33,150
typical sort of form I if you noticed in

2840
02:03:40,490 --> 02:03:35,580
my book I did a bunch of illustrations

2841
02:03:46,610 --> 02:03:40,500
and fabulous drawings thank you thank

2842
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:46,620
you yeah they look about as professional

2843
02:03:50,570 --> 02:03:48,570
as you can get really good illustrations

2844
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:50,580
on my head well thank you so much well

2845
02:03:55,810 --> 02:03:53,250
my degree is in art education and I am I

2846
02:03:58,460 --> 02:03:55,820
am a commercial artist I've had our

2847
02:04:00,290 --> 02:03:58,470
representation I actually only became a

2848
02:04:03,070 --> 02:04:00,300
newspaper reporter because I wanted to

2849
02:04:07,690 --> 02:04:03,080
do editorial cartoons for the newspaper

2850
02:04:11,090 --> 02:04:07,700
so that's actually my first area of

2851
02:04:12,830 --> 02:04:11,100
training and my degree but that's how I

2852
02:04:15,590 --> 02:04:12,840
depicted the Bigfoot was running across

2853
02:04:17,479 --> 02:04:15,600
the road because it's just seen so often

2854
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:17,489
and I could have done and she sort of

2855
02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:18,810
did the same thing for the dog man

2856
02:04:23,300 --> 02:04:21,750
really it's like every once in a while

2857
02:04:25,460 --> 02:04:23,310
they want to get from one side to the

2858
02:04:29,270 --> 02:04:25,470
other so badly that they don't care if

2859
02:04:31,970 --> 02:04:29,280
traffic sees them and so I I can't

2860
02:04:33,950 --> 02:04:31,980
verify that footage of the dog man

2861
02:04:37,970 --> 02:04:33,960
running alongside the car but I can say

2862
02:04:40,460 --> 02:04:37,980
it's a consistent sort of action

2863
02:04:42,890 --> 02:04:40,470
according to reports that have gotten

2864
02:04:45,290 --> 02:04:42,900
over the past 23 years you know my

2865
02:04:48,410 --> 02:04:45,300
brother was involved in a Bigfoot

2866
02:04:50,420 --> 02:04:48,420
encounter just below Stevens pass in the

2867
02:04:54,260 --> 02:04:50,430
Cascade Mountains in Washington again I

2868
02:04:56,060 --> 02:04:54,270
think it was 73 or 74 was riding along

2869
02:04:59,120 --> 02:04:56,070
with two friends on horseback on a

2870
02:05:02,390 --> 02:04:59,130
logging road they came up to a curve in

2871
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:02,400
the road but one around a fairly low

2872
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:04,530
hill about a 20 foot hill and they

2873
02:05:08,450 --> 02:05:06,210
smelled this awful smell the horses

2874
02:05:11,479 --> 02:05:08,460
weird and freaked out they led the

2875
02:05:14,150 --> 02:05:11,489
horses around the curb and found five

2876
02:05:16,430 --> 02:05:14,160
tracks of a Bigfoot one on the right

2877
02:05:18,260 --> 02:05:16,440
side of the road one in the middle of

2878
02:05:20,570 --> 02:05:18,270
the road one on the left side of the

2879
02:05:23,030 --> 02:05:20,580
road and then a spooked track going up

2880
02:05:24,620 --> 02:05:23,040
the hill in a broken pine bough from a

2881
02:05:27,650 --> 02:05:24,630
tree like it he grabbed the bow to pull

2882
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:27,660
itself up mm-hmm and grass was still

2883
02:05:31,700 --> 02:05:29,280
slowly coming up out of the one

2884
02:05:36,170 --> 02:05:31,710
footprint on the left side of the road

2885
02:05:37,550 --> 02:05:36,180
but a very careful examination coming to

2886
02:05:39,020 --> 02:05:37,560
the road and going away from the road

2887
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:39,030
there were no other tracks and there

2888
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:40,800
should have been it's almost like it was

2889
02:05:44,140 --> 02:05:41,280
all

2890
02:05:46,879 --> 02:05:44,150
the manifest has it crossed the road

2891
02:05:48,529 --> 02:05:46,889
right here it appeared on the side of

2892
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:48,539
the road cross the road climbed up the

2893
02:05:51,950 --> 02:05:50,730
hill and then disappeared it's just

2894
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:51,960
really hard for me to wrap my head

2895
02:05:56,540 --> 02:05:55,050
around that I have had other reports

2896
02:05:58,850 --> 02:05:56,550
that are very similar and I sure I'm

2897
02:06:01,700 --> 02:05:58,860
sure you have where these tracks start

2898
02:06:04,220 --> 02:06:01,710
and stop inexplicably there's no way to

2899
02:06:06,919 --> 02:06:04,230
ascertain where the animal came from or

2900
02:06:08,750 --> 02:06:06,929
went to what do you make of that are we

2901
02:06:12,140 --> 02:06:08,760
dealing with something that's only

2902
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:12,150
manifest for momentarily is this

2903
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:15,090
something that's able to then zip into

2904
02:06:19,310 --> 02:06:17,010
some other dimension I mean what what is

2905
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:19,320
your gut feeling tell you about reports

2906
02:06:25,490 --> 02:06:21,690
like that well when there's absolutely

2907
02:06:27,770 --> 02:06:25,500
no possible physical physical world

2908
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:27,780
explanation you just sort of have to go

2909
02:06:32,540 --> 02:06:30,239
to these other places you know either

2910
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:32,550
that or just give it all up and disgust

2911
02:06:36,529 --> 02:06:35,280
and actually the place that I was

2912
02:06:39,890 --> 02:06:36,539
telling you about before that I'm

2913
02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:39,900
studying we have photos where something

2914
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:41,760
landed out in the middle of a field

2915
02:06:47,060 --> 02:06:45,090
broke through a crust of snow floundered

2916
02:06:50,750 --> 02:06:47,070
for a second and then walked on two legs

2917
02:06:53,089 --> 02:06:50,760
into a forest it was nowhere and these

2918
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:53,099
were canine prints so what are the

2919
02:06:58,669 --> 02:06:56,280
possibilities did a helicopter come and

2920
02:07:02,149 --> 02:06:58,679
hover in a man wearing stilts with

2921
02:07:04,419 --> 02:07:02,159
canine feet on the end land and walked

2922
02:07:09,439 --> 02:07:04,429
into this woods in the middle of nowhere

2923
02:07:11,359 --> 02:07:09,449
no so nobody would you know or where

2924
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:11,369
else to go you know there's just no

2925
02:07:17,299 --> 02:07:15,090
other explanation for that or you know

2926
02:07:20,660 --> 02:07:17,309
perfect footprints found in the middle

2927
02:07:22,100 --> 02:07:20,670
of a remote area just by chance by some

2928
02:07:24,410 --> 02:07:22,110
hikers who just happened to be in the

2929
02:07:26,689 --> 02:07:24,420
area to hope something like that in the

2930
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:26,699
middle of nowhere just on the off chance

2931
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:29,130
that somebody might encounter them that

2932
02:07:34,669 --> 02:07:32,250
to me adds legitimacy to two accounts of

2933
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this sort of accidental discoveries of

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physical evidence right because most

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hoaxers and I've known a few and I've

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talked to a few they'll just pull kind

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of standard things next to roads they

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want to be seen well it brings to mind

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the guy who was imitating the Bigfoot by

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I think you got hit by two cars and

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killed yeah and that's the usual prank

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or they'll go I know another man wrote

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me and said that he used to go near a

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campground where he knew people were and

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then he'd wear these Bigfoot feet you

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know and chomp around the campground and

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then he actually had an encounter as an

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adult and I said you know I'd like to

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print your story but since you're

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already wrote in and confessed that

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you're a hoaxer I don't think I can

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because you know I just can't I can't

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trust you know so um but he was going he

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wasn't going out in the middle of the

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woods where no one would see it he was

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going well outside the campground where

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he knew people were going to be walking

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that's pretty much the way these things

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operate no mines near the x-files

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episode where the the army intelligence

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guys or some sort of military

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intelligence guys staged an abduction on

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a roadway and then a real crack comes

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down and abducts them this guy was a

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little tip that I wouldn't accept him

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but I don't know I'm just not a big fan

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of hoaxers because you're messing with

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so many people that it totally muddies

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up the waters it's very yeah it does you

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know it makes it easy for skeptics come

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in and say yeah they're all hoaxers or

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it's this and that I'm Bray Road alone I

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know of five different hoaxes and yet

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none of them match up to the known

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sightings in terms of actions or

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descriptions or time or anything so it's

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uh well that's always gonna be a problem

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especially now in the digital age and

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you know I sound like a broken record

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all these obvious Oakes's and people are

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that happens there of course Chris is

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that when people suspect that there's a

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lot of fakery going on it's the broad

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brush effect they believe everything is

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a fake and when you present something

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that is apparently genuine to them what

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happens next exactly and the reality of

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the situation is physical especially in

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the UFO room films and videotapes of

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real objects do not conform to the

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people's expectations which are based in

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50s sci-fi movies or George Adamski or

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billy meier those types of crafts are

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often what hoaxsters use as a visual

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phenomenon and it's very easy to spot

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that these are hoaxes because they don't

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have the the actual characteristics that

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these objects have plasma sheets around

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them

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one one website features you know the

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ocean and there's a lot of moisture and

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none of the they're avid hoaxes Polk

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stone work shows

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of the the tell-tale signs of a real

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event and what's really frustrating me

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we'll have a hundred of these

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you know ridiculous attempts to hoax and

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then scattered among stuff will be real

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real footage will look us will videotape

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and it's just lost in the in the noise

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and it's it's really very frustrating to

3157
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me this should be the law against that

3158
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right well I don't know if you've heard

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of the gable film in in Michigan that

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was supposed to portray the Michigan

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Dogman this was something that was

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actually created by an amateur

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videographer who had a large collection

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of 70s paraphernalia and a camera and he

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set up to look like this weird creature

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was charging the camera and the last

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thing you see is these big fangs eating

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the camera and this was this was

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promoted believed and it was taken over

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by a Traverse City DJ named Steve Cook

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who promoted this as having been found

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at a race at a rummage sale or something

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like that and they had the word cable on

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went to Michigan with Master Quest and

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they both confessed on TV showed the

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things that were used and discussed it

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and even just last week I still had to

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refute someone who completely believes

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that the gable film was real and that

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these confessions were forced by the

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government who are trying to do like a

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3196
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a Samsonite filled with used

3197
02:19:42,019 --> 02:19:38,790
hundred-dollar bills in my house I'm

3198
02:19:44,570 --> 02:19:42,029
still waiting yeah well if these people

3199
02:19:48,860 --> 02:19:44,580
exist if the men in black are ready to

3200
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have you shut up how many suitcases of

3201
02:19:53,380 --> 02:19:51,029
fresh dollar bills or hundred-dollar

3202
02:20:00,280 --> 02:19:53,390
bills would it take risk to buy you off

3203
02:20:02,059 --> 02:20:00,290
just one big one it has to be I'm sure

3204
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:02,069
everyone has a price

3205
02:20:06,860 --> 02:20:05,250
what was the famous movie from the 60s I

3206
02:20:09,889 --> 02:20:06,870
think Ringo Starr's first movie with

3207
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Peter Sellers the magic Christian magic

3208
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Christian and that was that song that

3209
02:20:13,880 --> 02:20:13,199
Paul McCartney wrote for a band called

3210
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:13,890
Badfinger

3211
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:16,410
right if you want it here it is come and

3212
02:20:22,370 --> 02:20:19,920
get it you would buy people off like

3213
02:20:24,950 --> 02:20:22,380
famous opera singers to act up on stage

3214
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:24,960
or it's been years since I've seen the

3215
02:20:28,610 --> 02:20:26,370
movie but I remember thinking yeah you

3216
02:20:31,340 --> 02:20:28,620
know I bet you everybody does have a

3217
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price at some point you know they're

3218
02:20:37,729 --> 02:20:34,649
gonna hit that magic number or whatever

3219
02:20:41,559 --> 02:20:37,739
it is an inducement getting back to your

3220
02:20:44,179 --> 02:20:41,569
book now are there some areas that you

3221
02:20:46,340 --> 02:20:44,189
feel more strongly we've had a couple of

3222
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:46,350
questions here on the forums that formed

3223
02:20:51,620 --> 02:20:48,479
out the parapets calm they'll want to

3224
02:20:54,380 --> 02:20:51,630
know what your favorite manifestations

3225
02:20:57,110 --> 02:20:54,390
are obviously you know the Bray Road

3226
02:20:59,479 --> 02:20:57,120
events are rule figure prominently

3227
02:21:01,820 --> 02:20:59,489
always and have your name attached to

3228
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them because of of your your first book

3229
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but are there any other things that go

3230
02:21:10,130 --> 02:21:07,260
bump in the night let's say that that

3231
02:21:12,439 --> 02:21:10,140
really are hidden shoulders above other

3232
02:21:15,439 --> 02:21:12,449
manifestations in your mind personally

3233
02:21:17,660 --> 02:21:15,449
well I've actually been sort of more

3234
02:21:19,820 --> 02:21:17,670
enamored with Bigfoot than anything else

3235
02:21:23,630 --> 02:21:19,830
ever since I had that encounter two

3236
02:21:25,880 --> 02:21:23,640
years ago because I seemed since that it

3237
02:21:29,210 --> 02:21:25,890
seemed it like just open up that area in

3238
02:21:31,070 --> 02:21:29,220
my life and I've had now their sightings

3239
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,080
and other incidents and more and more

3240
02:21:36,649 --> 02:21:33,600
people coming to me with theirs

3241
02:21:39,950 --> 02:21:36,659
that's really been where my my head's

3242
02:21:42,139 --> 02:21:39,960
been a lot of the time but I'm also

3243
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:42,149
actually but and by the way I am

3244
02:21:47,479 --> 02:21:44,640
actively looking for incidents from

3245
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:47,489
eyewitnesses who had creatures that seem

3246
02:21:52,729 --> 02:21:48,960
to be associated in some way with

3247
02:21:54,410 --> 02:21:52,739
strange light phenomena or UFOs and if

3248
02:21:57,219 --> 02:21:54,420
you don't mind my saying so they can

3249
02:22:02,689 --> 02:21:57,229
contact me through Linda Godfrey comm

3250
02:22:06,260 --> 02:22:02,699
know everybody and paper ready but but

3251
02:22:08,840 --> 02:22:06,270
yeah it's that the Bigfoot and then I

3252
02:22:10,370 --> 02:22:08,850
really do have a fondness just because

3253
02:22:12,500 --> 02:22:10,380
they're so weird and it's probably my

3254
02:22:21,380 --> 02:22:12,510
favorite creature named for the bad

3255
02:22:23,210 --> 02:22:21,390
Squatch don't you give us a quick

3256
02:22:26,179 --> 02:22:23,220
rundown of a couple of sightings they're

3257
02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:26,189
pretty rare but give us some of your

3258
02:22:34,460 --> 02:22:31,170
favorites you know and it started with

3259
02:22:38,030 --> 02:22:34,470
it was named by a young man in Tacoma

3260
02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:38,040
Washington who had a sighting of one of

3261
02:22:42,649 --> 02:22:39,090
these things and they're generally

3262
02:22:46,849 --> 02:22:42,659
described as having 15 to 20 foot

3263
02:22:49,399 --> 02:22:46,859
wingspan and a furry scary humanoid in

3264
02:22:50,929 --> 02:22:49,409
the center and bat wings on the outside

3265
02:22:52,910 --> 02:22:50,939
and they can sometimes they're

3266
02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:52,920
encountered standing and will whip the

3267
02:22:57,439 --> 02:22:54,720
wings out and launch themselves and

3268
02:22:59,420 --> 02:22:57,449
other times they're just flying at cars

3269
02:23:02,630 --> 02:22:59,430
the one in Wisconsin that I called

3270
02:23:06,500 --> 02:23:02,640
called the man bat it was coming at

3271
02:23:08,030 --> 02:23:06,510
these two men right they thought was

3272
02:23:09,710 --> 02:23:08,040
gonna right through the truck windshield

3273
02:23:13,370 --> 02:23:09,720
and the wingspan was as wide or wider

3274
02:23:14,570 --> 02:23:13,380
than the truck that's the same thing

3275
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:14,580
we're talking about that have been seen

3276
02:23:19,429 --> 02:23:16,170
in Chicago there's tons of them in

3277
02:23:25,460 --> 02:23:19,439
Pennsylvania and Ohio I don't know why

3278
02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:25,470
that should be but I talked of a

3279
02:23:32,660 --> 02:23:28,319
sighting was that the one in I think it

3280
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:32,670
was 95 or 96 and sure had they had

3281
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:36,090
pointed ears yeah I'm I'm thinking so

3282
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:39,090
and it was seven Bigfoot sightings in

3283
02:23:44,719 --> 02:23:40,770
the San Luis Valley during that same

3284
02:23:47,599 --> 02:23:44,729
week time for it is that right my first

3285
02:23:49,609 --> 02:23:47,609
book yeah well see that there's

3286
02:23:53,540 --> 02:23:49,619
one of those correlations for you and I

3287
02:23:55,790 --> 02:23:53,550
actually found an interview the reporter

3288
02:23:57,260 --> 02:23:55,800
who broke the story at that time and he

3289
02:23:59,869 --> 02:23:57,270
was very impressed with the young man

3290
02:24:01,550 --> 02:23:59,879
that came up with with a bad Squatch

3291
02:24:04,159 --> 02:24:01,560
name that had that sighting and

3292
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:04,169
something he had a good reputation there

3293
02:24:08,090 --> 02:24:05,850
wasn't anything about him that made him

3294
02:24:09,399 --> 02:24:08,100
think he might be making it up and I

3295
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:09,409
thought that that was a pretty good

3296
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:13,439
testimonial that Sasquatch we're getting

3297
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Fadi no we're not

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into why even if I had a pretty

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hello this is John burrows one of the

3407
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witnesses to the Rendlesham UFO incident

3408
02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:47,141
you're listening to the podcast the gold

3409
02:29:01,480 --> 02:28:59,200
the subject on the table is American

3410
02:29:03,820 --> 02:29:01,490
monsters with gene and Chris and Linda

3411
02:29:05,230 --> 02:29:03,830
Godfrey you know we've talked about a

3412
02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:05,240
lot of different types of case histories

3413
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:08,570
here a lot of different phenomena Linda

3414
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,330
what can be done to prove any of this

3415
02:29:15,940 --> 02:29:13,280
stuff I mean we have the eyewitness

3416
02:29:19,870 --> 02:29:15,950
cases I know some time back we had that

3417
02:29:23,770 --> 02:29:19,880
aborted attempt to analyze alleged DNA

3418
02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:23,780
from Bigfoot how do I come to a

3419
02:29:28,810 --> 02:29:26,330
conclusion with this that's the great

3420
02:29:31,180 --> 02:29:28,820
question you know I wish I knew all

3421
02:29:35,350 --> 02:29:31,190
investigators can do right now most of

3422
02:29:37,990 --> 02:29:35,360
us is really try and document eyewitness

3423
02:29:41,801 --> 02:29:38,000
accounts as best as possible whenever we

3424
02:29:43,990 --> 02:29:41,811
can go and try to look for and preserve

3425
02:29:46,751 --> 02:29:44,000
samples I mean there are enough Bigfoot

3426
02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:46,761
casts right now that you'd think that if

3427
02:29:50,761 --> 02:29:49,130
they were going to prove Bigfoot existed

3428
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:50,771
that we'd have enough of them to do that

3429
02:29:57,370 --> 02:29:54,080
so far it doesn't seem to convince the

3430
02:30:00,251 --> 02:29:57,380
world at large I'm thinking maybe some

3431
02:30:02,381 --> 02:30:00,261
day that drone or that perfect

3432
02:30:05,560 --> 02:30:02,391
arrangement of trail cams with some kind

3433
02:30:09,910 --> 02:30:05,570
of new really undetectable technology

3434
02:30:12,730 --> 02:30:09,920
will get a great film that last several

3435
02:30:16,091 --> 02:30:12,740
minutes that shows the creature from all

3436
02:30:18,810 --> 02:30:16,101
sides that is a great light that has

3437
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:18,820
objects around it for height comparison

3438
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:22,610
that will be really very hard to refute

3439
02:30:27,730 --> 02:30:25,610
you know that's my number-one hope we

3440
02:30:30,490 --> 02:30:27,740
don't seem to be too good at catching

3441
02:30:32,171 --> 02:30:30,500
them I mean I know that there was a TV

3442
02:30:35,650 --> 02:30:32,181
show called killed the Bigfoot where

3443
02:30:38,140 --> 02:30:35,660
they were intending to Horrors go out

3444
02:30:40,511 --> 02:30:38,150
and kill something that they didn't even

3445
02:30:41,830 --> 02:30:40,521
know what it was I wasn't too afraid

3446
02:30:43,780 --> 02:30:41,840
that they were going to actually find

3447
02:30:46,690 --> 02:30:43,790
one and kill it because even when people

3448
02:30:47,970 --> 02:30:46,700
do tend to shoot them in most cases the

3449
02:30:50,410 --> 02:30:47,980
bullets don't seem to have much effect

3450
02:30:52,001 --> 02:30:50,420
same with the dog man I have I have a

3451
02:30:53,890 --> 02:30:52,011
chapter on this in the monsters book

3452
02:30:56,921 --> 02:30:53,900
which you know I just called the

3453
02:30:59,291 --> 02:30:56,931
invincible creatures because that again

3454
02:31:01,660 --> 02:30:59,301
doesn't make any sense I don't know that

3455
02:31:04,660 --> 02:31:01,670
we can ever count on even trapping one

3456
02:31:08,110 --> 02:31:04,670
and taking a piece of its DNA when DNA

3457
02:31:09,700 --> 02:31:08,120
is taken and there are many many samples

3458
02:31:11,070 --> 02:31:09,710
as there were supposed to have been

3459
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:11,080
the case that you are talking about

3460
02:31:17,620 --> 02:31:14,810
somehow things end up going awry and

3461
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:17,630
getting turned in upon themselves and it

3462
02:31:23,650 --> 02:31:20,090
comes out looking less than irrefutable

3463
02:31:26,500 --> 02:31:23,660
no matter what we do so you know I guess

3464
02:31:31,059 --> 02:31:26,510
it's it's just a matter of continuing to

3465
02:31:33,580 --> 02:31:31,069
try hopefully get that irrefutable bit

3466
02:31:36,429 --> 02:31:33,590
of videography once again as you say

3467
02:31:38,620 --> 02:31:36,439
it's hard to really take in and say yes

3468
02:31:40,929 --> 02:31:38,630
this is it just because we also have if

3469
02:31:42,490 --> 02:31:40,939
we ever have that technology that is so

3470
02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:42,500
perfect that we'll be able to get that

3471
02:31:46,900 --> 02:31:45,439
kind of video then the technology for

3472
02:31:50,170 --> 02:31:46,910
faking it is probably going to be

3473
02:31:53,309 --> 02:31:50,180
keeping the equal pace you know so it's

3474
02:31:55,630 --> 02:31:53,319
really hard to have a lot of hope but

3475
02:31:58,479 --> 02:31:55,640
cryptozoologists are hopeful people or

3476
02:32:00,490 --> 02:31:58,489
we wouldn't be continuing to do this you

3477
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:00,500
know if you're a complete out-and-out

3478
02:32:04,510 --> 02:32:02,810
skeptic you probably won't be in the

3479
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:04,520
field for very long because you'll just

3480
02:32:09,250 --> 02:32:07,850
get too disgusted and hang-up but those

3481
02:32:11,650 --> 02:32:09,260
of us who are just intrigued by the

3482
02:32:13,750 --> 02:32:11,660
mystery intrigued by the fact that

3483
02:32:16,090 --> 02:32:13,760
people keep seeing them that we know

3484
02:32:19,809 --> 02:32:16,100
there's something to it we'll just keep

3485
02:32:22,599 --> 02:32:19,819
trying you know it's like you can't do

3486
02:32:24,490 --> 02:32:22,609
anything else but keep trying the other

3487
02:32:26,679 --> 02:32:24,500
thing I would add to mind is we've got

3488
02:32:29,290 --> 02:32:26,689
to work together we have to approach

3489
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:29,300
this as a team effort because a lot of

3490
02:32:32,559 --> 02:32:30,770
individuals running around at

3491
02:32:34,870 --> 02:32:32,569
cross-purposes I think we're going to

3492
02:32:37,540 --> 02:32:34,880
continue to spin our wheels if we can

3493
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:37,550
come up with protocols and a formula and

3494
02:32:41,260 --> 02:32:39,410
people working together or rowing in the

3495
02:32:43,030 --> 02:32:41,270
same direction I think we stand a much

3496
02:32:44,979 --> 02:32:43,040
better chance of gaining some headway I

3497
02:32:47,050 --> 02:32:44,989
think that would help although you know

3498
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:47,060
I I do feel there's a lot of room for

3499
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:49,010
different field techniques you know

3500
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:51,290
because people will say well the way the

3501
02:32:54,580 --> 02:32:53,090
way to hunt Bigfoot is you have to go

3502
02:32:55,929 --> 02:32:54,590
out and bang on trees if you don't bang

3503
02:32:58,179 --> 02:32:55,939
on trees you're not doing it right well

3504
02:32:59,889 --> 02:32:58,189
no the way to hunt Bigfoot is to go out

3505
02:33:02,559 --> 02:32:59,899
and sit in the woods with a candy bar

3506
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:02,569
very still and hope they come to you or

3507
02:33:08,099 --> 02:33:04,850
no the only way to hunt Bigfoot is to

3508
02:33:10,689 --> 02:33:08,109
put up trail cams every type of

3509
02:33:13,870 --> 02:33:10,699
investigation has its own place in my

3510
02:33:16,510 --> 02:33:13,880
view and I think I would never want to

3511
02:33:18,400 --> 02:33:16,520
get rid of that sense where anybody can

3512
02:33:21,010 --> 02:33:18,410
go and try out what seems right to them

3513
02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:21,020
because sooner or later somebody may

3514
02:33:24,290 --> 02:33:22,560
come up with something that actually

3515
02:33:29,059 --> 02:33:24,300
that no one else has ever thought of and

3516
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:29,069
I'd hate to lose that that too right you

3517
02:33:35,960 --> 02:33:33,810
know creative efforts also so I never

3518
02:33:37,309 --> 02:33:35,970
get too upset if somebody says well I

3519
02:33:39,620 --> 02:33:37,319
don't think you're investigating it

3520
02:33:42,050 --> 02:33:39,630
correctly I don't think there is one

3521
02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:42,060
correct way to do it and I'm happy to

3522
02:33:45,979 --> 02:33:43,920
see other people doing other things as

3523
02:33:47,599 --> 02:33:45,989
long as they're not being harmful yeah

3524
02:33:50,179 --> 02:33:47,609
you know the idea of going out and

3525
02:33:51,620 --> 02:33:50,189
taking potshots I mean it could be a guy

3526
02:33:56,030 --> 02:33:51,630
in a ghillie suit you might ask John

3527
02:33:58,670 --> 02:33:56,040
Phil somebody let's say that most of the

3528
02:34:00,920 --> 02:33:58,680
Dogman sightings are some natural wolf

3529
02:34:03,500 --> 02:34:00,930
subspecies that has somehow adapted or

3530
02:34:06,979 --> 02:34:03,510
learned to walk upright when it wants to

3531
02:34:09,800 --> 02:34:06,989
and you shoot a protected timber wolf

3532
02:34:12,019 --> 02:34:09,810
yours a lot of trouble you know but the

3533
02:34:15,109 --> 02:34:12,029
dog man silence why not just leave bags

3534
02:34:21,050 --> 02:34:15,119
of dog food out they don't seem to want

3535
02:34:24,019 --> 02:34:21,060
dog food no but I know what you mean

3536
02:34:26,990 --> 02:34:24,029
yeah throw some kibbles or okay we can

3537
02:34:28,670 --> 02:34:27,000
get Purina its underwrite a dog the best

3538
02:34:30,969 --> 02:34:28,680
to get you brought to you by Purina Dog

3539
02:34:33,889 --> 02:34:30,979
Chow oh there you go

3540
02:34:36,590 --> 02:34:33,899
I think the thing that makes it most

3541
02:34:39,019 --> 02:34:36,600
difficult or easier for these creatures

3542
02:34:41,960 --> 02:34:39,029
whatever they are is the fact that so

3543
02:34:43,790 --> 02:34:41,970
many people do not believe they exist or

3544
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:43,800
consider them just part of entertainment

3545
02:34:48,530 --> 02:34:45,600
oh these are reality shows why should we

3546
02:34:51,290 --> 02:34:48,540
take it seriously true somebody who

3547
02:34:54,200 --> 02:34:51,300
doesn't believe he has a sighting of

3548
02:34:55,969 --> 02:34:54,210
some sort they're off in the 1 set would

3549
02:34:58,010 --> 02:34:55,979
rather not rock their own universe and

3550
02:34:59,030 --> 02:34:58,020
that will remain and do you know how I

3551
02:35:01,819 --> 02:34:59,040
not tell anybody

3552
02:35:03,559 --> 02:35:01,829
no yeah I don't know how many times I've

3553
02:35:05,359 --> 02:35:03,569
had somebody believe in any of this

3554
02:35:09,710 --> 02:35:05,369
stuff then it happened to me and boy do

3555
02:35:13,269 --> 02:35:09,720
I believe now exactly exactly it's

3556
02:35:16,609 --> 02:35:13,279
pretty common so what's your direction

3557
02:35:19,069 --> 02:35:16,619
new book you were mentioning before what

3558
02:35:21,290 --> 02:35:19,079
else was coming up yeah well I do have

3559
02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:21,300
this new book where I am taking a look

3560
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:24,720
at a lot of these incidents that have

3561
02:35:30,859 --> 02:35:27,050
other aspects to them they're not just

3562
02:35:33,349 --> 02:35:30,869
the obviously natural looking creature

3563
02:35:35,850 --> 02:35:33,359
running across the road they may have

3564
02:35:37,890 --> 02:35:35,860
UFOs or lights associated

3565
02:35:40,530 --> 02:35:37,900
with them they may appear in conjunction

3566
02:35:43,860 --> 02:35:40,540
with other paranormal phenomena that's

3567
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:43,870
what I'm looking for if anybody if this

3568
02:35:46,501 --> 02:35:45,280
is ringing a bell with anyone out there

3569
02:35:49,591 --> 02:35:46,511
and you've been sitting on top of

3570
02:35:53,070 --> 02:35:49,601
something for a week 10 months 10 years

3571
02:35:54,810 --> 02:35:53,080
20 years and you think okay this is and

3572
02:35:57,301 --> 02:35:54,820
I do keep people anonymous if they like

3573
02:35:58,801 --> 02:35:57,311
as long as I have your information and I

3574
02:36:01,110 --> 02:35:58,811
could show my editor that I didn't make

3575
02:36:02,700 --> 02:36:01,120
you up you know that's fine I you don't

3576
02:36:06,450 --> 02:36:02,710
have to put your name out to the world

3577
02:36:07,860 --> 02:36:06,460
but I would encourage you to contact me

3578
02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:07,870
and again you can go to Linda Godfrey

3579
02:36:14,551 --> 02:36:11,740
comm and find my email address and

3580
02:36:17,341 --> 02:36:14,561
there's a a little contact form you can

3581
02:36:20,001 --> 02:36:17,351
use too and just let me know

3582
02:36:22,591 --> 02:36:20,011
I've got a few developing Jimmy

3583
02:36:25,140 --> 02:36:22,601
fantastic yeah they're in my database

3584
02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:25,150
and then sprinkled through my my first

3585
02:36:30,060 --> 02:36:27,580
couple feed books so that's fantastic

3586
02:36:31,801 --> 02:36:30,070
Folsom Mountain and M Tour de Monte the

3587
02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:31,811
San Luis Valley is one of those places

3588
02:36:37,051 --> 02:36:34,150
where there seems to be correlations all

3589
02:36:38,761 --> 02:36:37,061
over the place between seemingly you

3590
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:38,771
know divergent phenomena but they they

3591
02:36:43,280 --> 02:36:41,110
seem to appear and disappear in waves so

3592
02:36:45,690 --> 02:36:43,290
in conjunction with one another so

3593
02:36:48,211 --> 02:36:45,700
there's a few good ones in there that's

3594
02:36:50,251 --> 02:36:48,221
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3595
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3598
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3602
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3603
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